RD
Alas, there's no chance of that happening - C4 don't make any of their own programmes, nor are they allowed to. Everything must be commissioned from independent production companies.
Was not Right to Reply famously an exception?
rdd
Founding member
And they should produce it in house not with princess productions or any other companies.
Was not Right to Reply famously an exception?
WP
The issue is that the teenage audience simply does not exist any more.
What - all teenagers have vanished from the UK (or nobody was born between 1994 and 1999, hence all the fuss about Millennium babies!). Yes, no doubt about it the audience has fragmented over the years but C4 shouldn't be just waving them off as it's important to C4 to get the younger audience not just at the weekends, but throughout the week. Obviously they do have E4 doing that job but that doesn't mean C4 should just give up and become a home to general nothingness (which it seems to be at the moment). It's still vitally important that in terms of entertainment, comedy and drama they try to appeal to an audience younger than their terrestrial rivals, and ensure that C4 is a channel that teenagers do check out, not just skip in the EPG.
Also in losing T4 they've lost one of their last major outlets for guests and self promotion considering they have no breakfast show or daytime chat show of their own. Indeed at the moment they've only really got Alan Carr, and that's only for a few weeks at a time.
Teenagers do not watch appointment to view telly. Pretty simple.
Watching this and the CITV documentary yesterday and seeing at how much on screen talent both have generated over the years (not to mention the off screen talent aswell) it's unbelieveable how channels are letting these institutions where big names of the future can cut their teeth die.
I've said my piece about T4 over recent months but when earlier this year OFCOM told C4 they needed to do more to attract an audience to axe a brand like T4 in favour of Saturday morning repeats of 90's comedies and a Sunday morning cookery show is just absolute nonsense IMO.
I've said my piece about T4 over recent months but when earlier this year OFCOM told C4 they needed to do more to attract an audience to axe a brand like T4 in favour of Saturday morning repeats of 90's comedies and a Sunday morning cookery show is just absolute nonsense IMO.
The issue is that the teenage audience simply does not exist any more.
What - all teenagers have vanished from the UK (or nobody was born between 1994 and 1999, hence all the fuss about Millennium babies!). Yes, no doubt about it the audience has fragmented over the years but C4 shouldn't be just waving them off as it's important to C4 to get the younger audience not just at the weekends, but throughout the week. Obviously they do have E4 doing that job but that doesn't mean C4 should just give up and become a home to general nothingness (which it seems to be at the moment). It's still vitally important that in terms of entertainment, comedy and drama they try to appeal to an audience younger than their terrestrial rivals, and ensure that C4 is a channel that teenagers do check out, not just skip in the EPG.
Also in losing T4 they've lost one of their last major outlets for guests and self promotion considering they have no breakfast show or daytime chat show of their own. Indeed at the moment they've only really got Alan Carr, and that's only for a few weeks at a time.
BR
The issue is that the teenage audience simply does not exist any more.
What - all teenagers have vanished from the UK (or nobody was born between 1994 and 1999, hence all the fuss about Millennium babies!). Yes, no doubt about it the audience has fragmented over the years but C4 shouldn't be just waving them off as it's important to C4 to get the younger audience not just at the weekends, but throughout the week. Obviously they do have E4 doing that job but that doesn't mean C4 should just give up and become a home to general nothingness (which it seems to be at the moment). It's still vitally important that in terms of entertainment, comedy and drama they try to appeal to an audience younger than their terrestrial rivals, and ensure that C4 is a channel that teenagers do check out, not just skip in the EPG.
Also in losing T4 they've lost one of their last major outlets for guests and self promotion considering they have no breakfast show or daytime chat show of their own. Indeed at the moment they've only really got Alan Carr, and that's only for a few weeks at a time.
Teenagers do not watch appointment to view telly. Pretty simple.
I think that's as big a myth as the one which led to ITV axing almost all regional programming because viewers wouldn't want it following digital switchover. It's all a catch 22 situation - teenagers will watch shows if they are there for them to watch - you just have to target them properly, and in the last couple of years especially T4 had got rather lazy.
Watching this and the CITV documentary yesterday and seeing at how much on screen talent both have generated over the years (not to mention the off screen talent aswell) it's unbelieveable how channels are letting these institutions where big names of the future can cut their teeth die.
I've said my piece about T4 over recent months but when earlier this year OFCOM told C4 they needed to do more to attract an audience to axe a brand like T4 in favour of Saturday morning repeats of 90's comedies and a Sunday morning cookery show is just absolute nonsense IMO.
I've said my piece about T4 over recent months but when earlier this year OFCOM told C4 they needed to do more to attract an audience to axe a brand like T4 in favour of Saturday morning repeats of 90's comedies and a Sunday morning cookery show is just absolute nonsense IMO.
The issue is that the teenage audience simply does not exist any more.
What - all teenagers have vanished from the UK (or nobody was born between 1994 and 1999, hence all the fuss about Millennium babies!). Yes, no doubt about it the audience has fragmented over the years but C4 shouldn't be just waving them off as it's important to C4 to get the younger audience not just at the weekends, but throughout the week. Obviously they do have E4 doing that job but that doesn't mean C4 should just give up and become a home to general nothingness (which it seems to be at the moment). It's still vitally important that in terms of entertainment, comedy and drama they try to appeal to an audience younger than their terrestrial rivals, and ensure that C4 is a channel that teenagers do check out, not just skip in the EPG.
Also in losing T4 they've lost one of their last major outlets for guests and self promotion considering they have no breakfast show or daytime chat show of their own. Indeed at the moment they've only really got Alan Carr, and that's only for a few weeks at a time.
I think that's as big a myth as the one which led to ITV axing almost all regional programming because viewers wouldn't want it following digital switchover. It's all a catch 22 situation - teenagers will watch shows if they are there for them to watch - you just have to target them properly, and in the last couple of years especially T4 had got rather lazy.
BA
The way to get teenagers interested is to put on a show they would watch or guests and celebrities that are popular with teens that they like.Advertise on social media websites -online and during breaks. And most importantly keep up with the times and have good content!
And not all teens will watch shows if they're there believe me I know...
And not all teens will watch shows if they're there believe me I know...
BA
And they managed that despite the fact they didn't want to do it any more - despite what many YouTube commenters seem to think, claiming it was "banned".
I have to ask why did dick and dom not want to continue doing the series? I know it last 4 years? but only the last three series were seen on bbc one.
I think the reason was (at the time) was that they simply wanted to move on, and had got bored of doing it.
Now, the final episode of 'Dick and Dom in Da Bungalow',
that
was a proper sendoff. Both Ds unscriptedly screaming "WE SAVED CHILDREN'S TELEVISION" into the camera (and presumably the BBC bosses) was a sight to behold!
And they managed that despite the fact they didn't want to do it any more - despite what many YouTube commenters seem to think, claiming it was "banned".
I have to ask why did dick and dom not want to continue doing the series? I know it last 4 years? but only the last three series were seen on bbc one.
I think the reason was (at the time) was that they simply wanted to move on, and had got bored of doing it.
JO
And they managed that despite the fact they didn't want to do it any more - despite what many YouTube commenters seem to think, claiming it was "banned".
I have to ask why did dick and dom not want to continue doing the series? I know it last 4 years? but only the last three series were seen on bbc one.
I think the reason was (at the time) was that they simply wanted to move on, and had got bored of doing it.
And probably had bigger expectations.
Now, the final episode of 'Dick and Dom in Da Bungalow',
that
was a proper sendoff. Both Ds unscriptedly screaming "WE SAVED CHILDREN'S TELEVISION" into the camera (and presumably the BBC bosses) was a sight to behold!
And they managed that despite the fact they didn't want to do it any more - despite what many YouTube commenters seem to think, claiming it was "banned".
I have to ask why did dick and dom not want to continue doing the series? I know it last 4 years? but only the last three series were seen on bbc one.
I think the reason was (at the time) was that they simply wanted to move on, and had got bored of doing it.
And probably had bigger expectations.
BA
And they managed that despite the fact they didn't want to do it any more - despite what many YouTube commenters seem to think, claiming it was "banned".
I have to ask why did dick and dom not want to continue doing the series? I know it last 4 years? but only the last three series were seen on bbc one.
I think the reason was (at the time) was that they simply wanted to move on, and had got bored of doing it.
And probably had bigger expectations.
Do you mean aspirations?
Now, the final episode of 'Dick and Dom in Da Bungalow',
that
was a proper sendoff. Both Ds unscriptedly screaming "WE SAVED CHILDREN'S TELEVISION" into the camera (and presumably the BBC bosses) was a sight to behold!
And they managed that despite the fact they didn't want to do it any more - despite what many YouTube commenters seem to think, claiming it was "banned".
I have to ask why did dick and dom not want to continue doing the series? I know it last 4 years? but only the last three series were seen on bbc one.
I think the reason was (at the time) was that they simply wanted to move on, and had got bored of doing it.
And probably had bigger expectations.
Do you mean aspirations?