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Richard Granada North West Today

Channel TV has it’s own Studios so announcements could be possible (if not live),

I'm not sure what you mean, surely Channel's setup is no different to every other region?


Truth is why would they want to have people in St Helier, Belfast, Cardiff etc sitting there 12 hours a day doing near identical announcements for no particular reason? Why would ITV even contemplate that?

I think recorded announcements in Belfast and Cardiff would be nice but I don’t think there is a business case for it.

To me, the accents of Channel Islanders don’t sound particularly different to those on the south of England that locals would even notice different continuity unless “Channel Islands” or similar was mentioned. I appreciate that there are local words and phrases that come from Jerrais and the other local languages but I don’t think it would bring them many more viewers in what is the least-populated ITV region.
JK
JKDerry UTV Newsline
JAS84 posted:
I won't be surprised if UTV Live remains as is until the next major ITV News rebrand.

Well come January 2021 the current branding for ITV national news and regional news will have been used for 8 years, and I doubt there are any plans for changes at the moment, so UTV Live could remain.
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Rijowhi Central (West) Midlands Today

Channel TV has it’s own Studios so announcements could be possible (if not live),

I'm not sure what you mean, surely Channel's setup is no different to every other region?


Truth is why would they want to have people in St Helier, Belfast, Cardiff etc sitting there 12 hours a day doing near identical announcements for no particular reason? Why would ITV even contemplate that?

I think recorded announcements in Belfast and Cardiff would be nice but I don’t think there is a business case for it.

To me, the accents of Channel Islanders don’t sound particularly different to those on the south of England that locals would even notice different continuity unless “Channel Islands” or similar was mentioned. I appreciate that there are local words and phrases that come from Jerrais and the other local languages but I don’t think it would bring them many more viewers in what is the least-populated ITV region.


I agree about the Channel Islands especially with them just having the Islands News as their programming. For Wales and Northern Ireland though, localised idents and announcements for ‘National’ programming should in my opinion (whether recorded in London, Cardiff or whatever) be as fundamental as the programming itself. It’s not about the ‘Business Case’, it’s about showing respect for Wales and Northern Ireland as separate parts of the UK.
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commseng London London
But ITV is a business.
So are many others.
Kit Kats don't have tartan wrappers north of the border, Baxters soup can be bought in England without a cross of St George on it, and I've drunk Bushmills whiskey in Wales without seeing a dragon on the bottle.
Is regional or national continuity more important than the content of the actual programmes?
I'd rather see programmes reflecting a nation or region to itself rather than just a name check with a local accent.
Have you seen (or heard) what passes for local content on commercial radio now?
AN
all new Phil Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Honestly I’m glad they don’t pretend to have regional announcers any more like they did for a while. A pre-recorded announcement into a local show is fine - nobody is switching off in disgust because they don’t have someone voicing it locally.
DB
dbl London London
It's the end of an era, but it makes business sense to centralise the continuity, especially if UTV viewers haven't really winced much about it. I do recall posts on here complaining about the sloppiness of it before ITV bought UTV sooo... 🤷
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Andrew Wood Founding member Central (West) Midlands Today
But ITV is a business.
So are many others.
Kit Kats don't have tartan wrappers north of the border, Baxters soup can be bought in England without a cross of St George on it, and I've drunk Bushmills whiskey in Wales without seeing a dragon on the bottle.
Is regional or national continuity more important than the content of the actual programmes?

Yet supermarkets in the nations go all out to put saltires and dragons on their locally-sourced fresh produce, as if without them, the locals wouldn't buy it.
CO
commseng London London
True, I suppose if you are going to have to print something anyway then adding a local emblem doesn't cost anything.
ITV doesn't need to do that in Wales and NI though to announce say Coronation Street or any other national programme.
CO
Cold Open West Country (East) Points West

Is regional or national continuity more important than the content of the actual programmes?
I'd rather see programmes reflecting a nation or region to itself rather than just a name check with a local accent.


A pre-recorded announcement into a local show is fine - nobody is switching off in disgust because they don’t have someone voicing it locally.


Quite. As long as PSB programmes such as View From Stormont and Sharp End are still produced, the average viewer wouldn't care if they're preceded by and ident featuring the flag of Vanuatu and a continuity announcer with a South African accent speaking in Klingon.
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chinamug UTV Newsline


Quite. As long as PSB programmes such as View From Stormont and Sharp End are still produced, the average viewer wouldn't care if they're preceded by and ident featuring the flag of Vanuatu and a continuity announcer with a South African accent speaking in Klingon.


It's Northern Ireland, it's advisable to avoid Flags of any kind. Very Happy
RI
Rijowhi Central (West) Midlands Today
But ITV is a business.
So are many others.
Kit Kats don't have tartan wrappers north of the border, Baxters soup can be bought in England without a cross of St George on it, and I've drunk Bushmills whiskey in Wales without seeing a dragon on the bottle.
Is regional or national continuity more important than the content of the actual programmes?
I'd rather see programmes reflecting a nation or region to itself rather than just a name check with a local accent.
Have you seen (or heard) what passes for local content on commercial radio now?


I’m afraid I have heard what passes for ‘local’ content on commercial Radio these days. Not that the BBC’s offering is any better. That’s a battle for another day though.

As I said previously National continuity for Welsh and Northern Irish programming could easily be pre-recorded in London (not necessarily Cardiff or Belfast). As long as the voices are localised that’s not much of an issue, I just feel as separate Nations Wales & Northern Ireland should be treated as separate from England when it comes to their National programming (such as ITV News Wales). It wouldn’t cost much to achieve this.

Oh and no flags for UTV/ITV Northern Ireland please especially with the current Brexit situation. Shocked
Last edited by Rijowhi on 28 November 2020 6:30pm
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LL
London Lite Founding member London London
At the end of the day viewers in the UTV (and STV) region all want to watch Corrie, I'm a Celeb etc. The real thing of local value is the news, which is what they'll continue to watch whether it's called UTV Live or ITV News Northern Ireland.

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