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RO
robertclark125
Why not consider a return of BBC Select if such a thing is viable? On a serious note, I had read somewhere about BBC2 showing Internet protocol television. What is it, and will it happen?
BU
buster
As much as I agree the news channel simulcasts should disappear, it's probably too good a promotional opportunity for them to drop. I expect a lot of people who never stray into the news part of the EPG catch a bit when it's overnight on BBC1/BBC2.
ET
ETP1 Forever
Why not consider a return of BBC Select if such a thing is viable? On a serious note, I had read somewhere about BBC2 showing Internet protocol television. What is it, and will it happen?


Think its just something that cwilliams1976 said (although correct me if I'm wrong) on YouTube once.

Wonder what the possibility is of hearing some old test card/ceefax music on its last broadcast.
DV
DVB Cornwall
IPTV already exists on modern HD sets, via the Connected Devices iPlayer option, there's no way that a separate service piggybacked on a broadcast channel will follow, it's outdated, and the buildout of the infrastructure prohibitive in DQF days.
MA
Markymark
Surely any simulcast of the News Channel would be dropped once everyone's switched to digital - they'll already have it in the EPG!


Quite, and in fact as far as BBC SD transmissions are concerned, that point was reached on Oct 10th.
DV
dvboy
Last PFC currently showing in DigiGuide:

CONSUMER: Pages from Ceefax
On: BBC 2 Midlands (2)
Date: Saturday 27th October 2012 (starting in 8 days)
Time: 04:00 to 06:00 (2 hours long)

News and information from the BBC's Teletext service.
(Stereo)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Excerpt taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide available from http://www.getdigiguide.tv/?p=1&r=7646

Copyright (c) GipsyMedia Limited.
DV
dvboy
Given time, I expect the quantity of Signed material will increase, Ofcom have ideas of doing this, Allocating 5.5 hours overnight nominally on BBC ONE would solve that, enabling the simulcast of BBC News to run on BBC TWO overnight exclusively.

There is also the possibility that when DQF is implemented, some adult BBC FOUR material might be rebroadcast on BBC TWO post midnight to enable it's HD transmission.


I have suggested previously on TV Forum that the primetime (7pm-midnight) output of BBC One and BBC Two could be repeated overnight in a similar way BBC Three and BBC Four sort-of do. I worked out for an example week if you take out The One Show, news, repeats, EastEnders and live events (mainly sports) programmes , you would usually still have enough broadcasting hours to fit the sign zone and learning zone programmes in.

An alternative would be to shift the sign and learning zones to BBC Two mornings in place of 5 and a half hours of Cbeebies Shocked
BR
Brekkie
I see no reason to drop the overnight simulcast - it's decent schedule filler and that's all they need overnight.
JV
James Vertigan Founding member
xwing posted:

Wonder what the possibility is of hearing some old test card/ceefax music on its last broadcast.


Would be lovely but chances probably very slim - Network don't do special things with regard to Ceefax music since everything went onto a server which replaced the CDs/Minidiscs. Last time any special Ceefax music was played was just before BBC Broadcast became Red Bee when they were clearing out the old continuity suites and we got to hear the likes of BART, From A Sidewalk Cafe and a version of the Star Wars theme that IIRC was MECO's or very similar.

Now, if a certain Mr Tony Currie was in charge at Red Bee in London we'd have all sorts of classic Ceefax tracks, I'm sure!

But hey - you never know. Someone at Red Bee might just read this and prove me wrong - and I would love that! It
would also be nice, when the last PFC transmission does come, if it got a little recognition either side from the Network CA and not just a bog standard "Pages from Ceefax and some music" announcement - it will be a moment in TV history after all!
:-(
A former member
If someone in BBC Scotland has some spare time, there could just slot in something else Wink
MI
Mike516
Pages from Ceefax originally provided access to Ceefax for those without a teletext enabled TV.

BBC News overnight originally provided access to BBC News 24/News Channel for those without digital reception.

The BBC News overnight simulcast will - with the move to NBH - provide access to BBC World News HD content for those in the UK who are not able to get BBC World News HD.

So there's a justification for keeping it going. Thing is, it's not worth putting anything much on at that time. More and more viewers can make up their own schedule at 4am via the iPlayer!
MA
Markymark
I see no reason to drop the overnight simulcast - it's decent schedule filler and that's all they need overnight.


Why does the BBC 1 schedule need to be filled up 24/7 ? It's wasting bandwidth, which as it is is at a premium on DTT.

I can't think of any other European PSB that feels to need to do so, if there's nothing to show, they just show a caption, or PFC style rolling pages.

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