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The end of Pages from Ceefax

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SC
scottishtv Founding member

...and still a superior weather forecast to ITV National Weather.
WP
WillPS
It's not that important a date as far as that goes. As we are experiencing, nobody can actually bloody access Ceefax to see it in its last day - would have been nice if they had re-enabled the service on DSAT!
LE
levaniX_4
It's not that important a date as far as that goes. As we are experiencing, nobody can actually bloody access Ceefax to see it in its last day - would have been nice if they had re-enabled the service on DSAT!


So, I understand, but anyway, that completely symbolises the end of analogue teletext.(at least, in the UK)

Here's the tweet I found on twitter, last weather map on Ceefax
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A55yrcNCMAAKMfg.png
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A55zijtCEAAV33E.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A550ZX1CcAApK-g.jpg
MA
Markymark


Viewers can check Ceefax itself during the evening to see a special graphics countdown on page 100.
So a special graphics countdown... which none of us will get to see!


Not live, but I'm sure someone will immortalise it on You Tube.
KY
Kendo Yanar
The UK (and possibly Ireland) is the only country in Europe where "digital" teletext has been successful to the point where the old teletext service could be closed down. That may be down to the fact that the British Isles used MHEG-5, which is nearly universal in DTT boxes, while the rest of Europe used MHP, that was usually not supported by STBs.

There have been some "teletext replacement" services run with MHP, but AIUI, most of them have been closed down as no viewers had the hardware needed to access them. The ones I've seen were never really as good as BBC Red Button. The only country where MHP has really taken off is Italy.


When the new millenium arrived, MHP was an unbelievably largely hyped thing here in Finland. It first came available to the wide public when the YLE24 service was launched in August '01. Amongst the main YLE24 channel, there were 5 simultaneous streams on a dedicated multiplex broadcasting raw news feeds and sports events from around the world.

On the same multiplex, there also were around-the-clock news from channels around the world. There were a total of eight news channels provided FTA to TV license payers, the first seven of those being BBC News 24/World, CNN, Sky News, ITN News Channel (IIRC later changed to Faux News), MSNBC, N24 from Germany and SVT24 from Sweden. The channels had Finnish subtitles and were broadcast on a one-minute delay - the eighth channel, Euronews, of course had multiple audio feeds instead of subtitles.

The text content of the service was called "super-teleteksti" (I guess I don't have to translate that Very Happy ) and it offered the same sort of service as did the normal teletext, with the content being hyperlocalised for each and every transmitter. I think there was some kind of agreement between EBU broadcasters that allowed them to broadcast content from each other - at least here we had access to news from every EBU country in their own languages via super-teleteksti.

News junkies and anoraks of course responded well to this arrangement but the service was quietly shut down in the beginning of 2008. And that was the story of interactive TV in Finland. No, there was nothing on commercial channels - no, there was no other content. That's just it. MHP flopped badly . I have no idea why internet hasn't yet surpassed teletext - must be some kind of tradition on refusing to get acquainted with everything new.

And no, I am not sorry for the long post.
LE
levaniX_4
Current main page
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-foyle-west-20044323
:-(
A former member
Ummm, where did I see that before? Oh yes, the end of ORACLE...

http://teletext.mb21.co.uk/gallery/oracle/end-gone.shtml

http://teletext.mb21.co.uk/gallery/oracle/itv-100-311292f.gif

http://teletext.mb21.co.uk/gallery/oracle/itv-100-311292g.gif
IS
Isonstine Founding member
I'm actually surprised by the amount of "normal" people who are recognising the end of Ceefax (judging by Facebook) - seems it has ingrained itself in more people than we thought.

When you stop and think about the kind of service it was providing in 1974 Britain, it's absolutely amazing. Of course, technology overtook it and the internet was a new way of getting information "on demand" but top marks for a bit of recognition of the BBC News website - it's certainly made me feel very nostalgic.
:-(
A former member
One of the main reasons I think it remains ingrained, is that it was fast. Faster than having to go to a computer and going on line, faster than using your mobile, and certainly faster than the cráp-fest which is MHEG5.
MA
Markymark


I thought Oracle started in 1974 too ?
WP
WillPS
One of the main reasons I think it remains ingrained, is that it was fast. Faster than having to go to a computer and going on line, faster than using your mobile, and certainly faster than the cráp-fest which is MHEG5.


In the period when it was new and innovative, it was renowned for being slow! It's only in the years since when tellys have started caching it has it been 'fast'!
JA
jamie1992
In the period when it was new and innovative, it was renowned for being slow! It's only in the years since when tellys have started caching it has it been 'fast'!

I continued to use it on a 'normal' CRT TV (without the extensive page caching of LCD sets) until 2011, and it was still faster than any other news/information service I have access to.
It may have been slower in the 80s when there were many pages but not all VBI lines were utilised? And I guess the early, pre-fastext decoders had virtually no page caching?

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