NJ
Actually the show ran for years without any ad breaks in it.
Flextech tend to use the existing commercial slots in the programmes and only force one where there isn't an appropriate junction. Krypton doesn't have a natural commercial point on Ftn because there wasn't one on the original broadcasts.
The only reason it fits on Ftn in a 30min slot is because the ads aren't anywhere near as long as they usually are.
Neil Jones
Founding member
Larry the Loafer posted:
Can somebody explain to me why the show's breaks were in "Flextech" style (fade cutaway to the shows logo and break) even though the Krypton Factor ran for 30mins WITH an ad break?
Actually the show ran for years without any ad breaks in it.
Flextech tend to use the existing commercial slots in the programmes and only force one where there isn't an appropriate junction. Krypton doesn't have a natural commercial point on Ftn because there wasn't one on the original broadcasts.
The only reason it fits on Ftn in a 30min slot is because the ads aren't anywhere near as long as they usually are.
AN
I'm racking my brain here but I can't quite work out why you think it was expensive?
Netizen posted:
That's bizzarre... why would Granada run a seemingly expensive show like Krypton Factor without getting any ad revenue? Unless the show on after it was always a sure fire way to keep the same viewers on.
I'm racking my brain here but I can't quite work out why you think it was expensive?
NJ
Why should it be expensive?
The questions are mostly general knowledge and lateral thinking, the research team can sort them out and get them verified by Mensa or somebody similar.
The assault course was already built - just stick a few Krypton logos on them and some army recruits and pay a fee for use of the facilities.
The puzzles would have probably come from the same sort of sources that Crystal Maze got theirs from, often on loan.
The video inserts look really cheap and done on film, which is also cheaper, even if they do look heavily dated 20yrs on, but all probably done in half an hour on a spare set somewhere after wrapping of Corrie or simliar for the day.
Its a special TV trick to make the show look more expensive than it was actually was. If you consider Crystal Maze cost £250k just to build the original set, then Krypton suddenly looks a lot cheaper.
Neil Jones
Founding member
Netizen posted:
That's bizzarre... why would Granada run a seemingly expensive show like Krypton Factor without getting any ad revenue?
Why should it be expensive?
The questions are mostly general knowledge and lateral thinking, the research team can sort them out and get them verified by Mensa or somebody similar.
The assault course was already built - just stick a few Krypton logos on them and some army recruits and pay a fee for use of the facilities.
The puzzles would have probably come from the same sort of sources that Crystal Maze got theirs from, often on loan.
The video inserts look really cheap and done on film, which is also cheaper, even if they do look heavily dated 20yrs on, but all probably done in half an hour on a spare set somewhere after wrapping of Corrie or simliar for the day.
Its a special TV trick to make the show look more expensive than it was actually was. If you consider Crystal Maze cost £250k just to build the original set, then Krypton suddenly looks a lot cheaper.
NE
That's fair enough then, I guess they had me fooled all this time! I thought it would be more expensive than other gameshows in terms of all the kit used, but I suppose as there was never thousands of pounds being given out every week the costs even out. I think maybe because they mentioned the cost of the flight sim machines so often that added to the illusion.
I suppose it's all rather obvious had I thought about it. Oh well!
Neil Jones posted:
Its a special TV trick to make the show look more expensive than it was actually was. If you consider Crystal Maze cost £250k just to build the original set, then Krypton suddenly looks a lot cheaper.
That's fair enough then, I guess they had me fooled all this time! I thought it would be more expensive than other gameshows in terms of all the kit used, but I suppose as there was never thousands of pounds being given out every week the costs even out. I think maybe because they mentioned the cost of the flight sim machines so often that added to the illusion.
I suppose it's all rather obvious had I thought about it. Oh well!
LL
Well thanks for clearing that up for me though I'm very confused and surprised that Krypton back then had no ads!
NJ
That's fair enough then, I guess they had me fooled all this time! I thought it would be more expensive than other gameshows in terms of all the kit used, but I suppose as there was never thousands of pounds being given out every week the costs even out. I think maybe because they mentioned the cost of the flight sim machines so often that added to the illusion.
Again with the flight simulators, the technology was already there and in use. Just send in Joe Bloggs, do what you have to do, pay for the use of the facilities.
Nothing was done specially for Krypton (with exception of the special one-off puzzles such as the C4 logo puzzle, the video inserts and the studio space), it was just a case of asking the right people. The assault course was already being used by the army, the flight simulators being used by British Airways (or whoever) to train pilots, just find spare space in the schedule to allow Granada in for a couple of hours.
Neil Jones
Founding member
Netizen posted:
Neil Jones posted:
Its a special TV trick to make the show look more expensive than it was actually was. If you consider Crystal Maze cost £250k just to build the original set, then Krypton suddenly looks a lot cheaper.
That's fair enough then, I guess they had me fooled all this time! I thought it would be more expensive than other gameshows in terms of all the kit used, but I suppose as there was never thousands of pounds being given out every week the costs even out. I think maybe because they mentioned the cost of the flight sim machines so often that added to the illusion.
Again with the flight simulators, the technology was already there and in use. Just send in Joe Bloggs, do what you have to do, pay for the use of the facilities.
Nothing was done specially for Krypton (with exception of the special one-off puzzles such as the C4 logo puzzle, the video inserts and the studio space), it was just a case of asking the right people. The assault course was already being used by the army, the flight simulators being used by British Airways (or whoever) to train pilots, just find spare space in the schedule to allow Granada in for a couple of hours.
NJ
Neil Jones
Founding member
More new shows for Ftn in February:
Takeshi's Castle
Boston Legal
Dog The Bounty Hunter
Street Crime UK 4
Night Stalker
and a few "to be announced" slots as well, which may be other new programming or repeats.
Also the ratings have gone up, which is a no-brainer now the channel's started showing some decent programming:
Week ending 31/12/06 (Before Quizcall removed)
Average daily reach 365,000 (0.1% audience share)
Week ending 07/01/07
Average daily reach 646,000 (0.2% audience share)
For comparision, the daily reach for the week ending 03/12/06 was 463,000 and 0.2% share.
Takeshi's Castle
Boston Legal
Dog The Bounty Hunter
Street Crime UK 4
Night Stalker
and a few "to be announced" slots as well, which may be other new programming or repeats.
Also the ratings have gone up, which is a no-brainer now the channel's started showing some decent programming:
Week ending 31/12/06 (Before Quizcall removed)
Average daily reach 365,000 (0.1% audience share)
Week ending 07/01/07
Average daily reach 646,000 (0.2% audience share)
For comparision, the daily reach for the week ending 03/12/06 was 463,000 and 0.2% share.
