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Mouseboy33
..... or bring subject to EAS broadcasts in the middle of the night.

So you'd rather not have a warning?
IS
Inspector Sands
RDS has a feature for emergency Broadcasts. I'm not sure it's ever been used or implemented by any broadcaster, though I remember reading years ago that some pirate stations worked out that if they switched it on (it's a programme type - no. 31) that it would make any radios receiving it not able to tune off it.
LL
Larry the Loafer
..... or bring subject to EAS broadcasts in the middle of the night.

So you'd rather not have a warning?


I'd rather have a warning that didn't consist of a disembodied phone call-quality voice, piercing electronic sounds, and white-on-black graphics that look like they're generated on a ZX Spectrum.

I doubt the design of the EAS is intentional, but considering American television likes to be as dramatic as possible, it wouldn't surprise me if they try and make people s**t themselves half the time with these alerts. The AMBER alert sound, which I've only ever seen get used once during a news broadcast uploaded on Youtube, is unnecessarily dark and eerie. Not even sure if it still gets used.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srsg0T1-6_Y
DA
davidhorman
Quote:
I doubt the design of the EAS is intentional, but considering American television likes to be as dramatic as possible, it wouldn't surprise me if they try and make people s**t themselves half the time with these alerts.


Doesn't that almost go with the very definition of "alert"? If they were in pastel colours and accompanied by music from CEEFAX, they'd be called "soothes."

The simple graphics and electronic sounds are probably because they're generated using extremely simple but extremely reliable equipment.
BA
bilky asko
I prefer the Japanese tsunami/earthquake warnings myself.
LL
Larry the Loafer
Quote:
I doubt the design of the EAS is intentional, but considering American television likes to be as dramatic as possible, it wouldn't surprise me if they try and make people s**t themselves half the time with these alerts.


Doesn't that almost go with the very definition of "alert"? If they were in pastel colours and accompanied by music from CEEFAX, they'd be called "soothes."


Well when you put it like that...


I prefer the Japanese tsunami/earthquake warnings myself.


I've seen different ones of those. One is almost akin to a ringtone IIRC, and the other sounded like an old computer gargling mouthwash. I've only ever seen the latter once on YouTube and I've never seen it since.
EL
elmarko
The earthquake is the tone and immediate warning, the tsunami is the sound you describe. It's digital data in an audio format and (I imagine) turns on various devices and shows messages etc.

I'm fascinated by the earthquake ones. I sometimes wonder if there's a prize for the first NHK cameraman in a news bureau to get a shot of an NHK sign on the wall swaying from side to side.
RK
Rkolsen


I'd rather have a warning that didn't consist of a disembodied phone call-quality voice, piercing electronic sounds, and white-on-black graphics that look like they're generated on a ZX Spectrum.

I doubt the design of the EAS is intentional, but considering American television likes to be as dramatic as possible, it wouldn't surprise me if they try and make people s**t themselves half the time with these alerts. The AMBER alert sound, which I've only ever seen get used once during a news broadcast uploaded on Youtube, is unnecessarily dark and eerie. Not even sure if it still gets used.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srsg0T1-6_Y

The tone is designed to become obnoxious so it will gather a viewer or listeners attention as its a sound that's not possible without a computer creating. The tone also serves as a dual purpose as a signal that's used to get the attention of other stations EAS encoders down the line. The whole EAS system is set up like a daisy chain in each state you usually have two primary entry point stations that receive the alerts from the federal government via satellite and Internet. The primary entry point stations typically are AM radio stations, many of which a clear channel stations that cover the entire state and then some, that receive the signal and rebroadcast it on their frequencies. Other radio and television stations in the market are tuned to the primary entry point stations and a back up and they then retransmit the signal. Some of the poor audio quality would likely be attributed to it initially being transmitted monaurally and that signal was later encoded again and again. The system was set up for redundancy and expediency.


The tones are also encoded with a header that identifies what type of alert is being transmitted (stations only have to pass along presidential alerts, tornado warnings and a few others), the time the alert was transmitted (I believe the estimated duration) and in the case of severe weather when it will expire, and the regions affected (EAS alerts typically only include county/state data and not towns or polygon alert areas) and once the alert is finished transmitting it will close out expiring the alerts.

The EAS tones are protected and the FCC has fine stations for improper use of the tones (or any similar recreation) outside of an active alert. A radio show in Nashville TN syndicated radio showplayed an EAS tone that aired in a television video clip and the tone was then picked up by AT&T Uverse (a fiber Internet / cable company) which locked up their systems in three different states Georgia, Michigan and Texas. The Nashville station that originated the tones was fined $1,000,000. What likely stopped the situation from getting worst and cascading across the country was likely due to many stations having properly setup their encoders to require basic Header Data for the date in question 24 October 2014 when the tone that was broadcast came from 9 November 2011.

A lot of TV stations do their own thing when it comes to EAS alerts - basically the only ones that get the EAS tone are presidential addresses and tornado warnings. Otherwise they can disseminate the information in their choosing such as running a craw during an AMBER Alert, a detailed ticker during severe weather with a little radar box showing the affected region. When these appear on screen it will likely sound a very loud version of their breaking news stinger, a chime such as G-E-C, or the simple beep beep beep.

Many stations also "personified" versions of their logos so when your viewer should know that there's a heat advisory out but does not necessitate a crawl. The personified version of the logos would have falling snow during a blizzard watch, an ominous cloud with a lighting bolt during a severe thunderstorm warning, a gust of wind for wind chill warnings and a sweating thermometer next to their logo for heat advisories.

A lot of the EAS alert graphics that appear on YouTube come from cable viewers. Given that cable companies likely have thousands of individual systems, some with different zones they needed a way to cheaply and effectively broadcast the important information to their subscribers.

There have been three or four Amber Alerts in Maryland in the past two years and I've never heard that sound be used to denote an alert was coming.
BC
Blake Connolly Founding member
The earthquake is the tone and immediate warning, the tsunami is the sound you describe. It's digital data in an audio format and (I imagine) turns on various devices and shows messages etc.

I'm fascinated by the earthquake ones. I sometimes wonder if there's a prize for the first NHK cameraman in a news bureau to get a shot of an NHK sign on the wall swaying from side to side.


Aside from the alert captions, I'm always amazed by how quickly NHK can get things to air during an earthquake. When it's happened during a news bulletin I've seen them cut to a live shot of the city while the camera's still shaking.

The way NHK are connected to the network of seismometers works really well, they can get detailed maps to air within seconds showing intensity numbers for lots of locations which give a pretty good idea of the epicentre and size of the quake.
BH
BillyH Founding member


Wow. I never thought I'd see that post again. Sent chills down my spine when I first read it aged 14.

Brilliantly written and designed.
PI
picard


Wow. I never thought I'd see that post again. Sent chills down my spine when I first read it aged 14.

Brilliantly written and designed.


I wonder,

If a nuke drops on London plus 10 miles say, will channels still be able to broadcast in other parts of the UK? I would hope there are plans in place, but in reality they will drop bombs everywhere.
MA
Maaixuew
An example of an 'Amber Alert' or Child Abduction Emergency gone wrong from May 2006:

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