Although this is normally what Eastenders do best they really should have cut that scene down
Absolutely not. The scene worked because it wasn't cut. It would have ruined it if halfway between we're cutting to Ruby going on about " 'er troubles ".
Sean annoyed me tonight. And not enough of Pat for my liking. They really, really need to get her something to do.
I liked the final scene at the end, but overall, it was an odd episode. I'm not sure where I stand with it really...
Was that really a half an hour episode? I liked the episode and loved the way they involved 9/11 into it ,but the train chat let them down because they never took small cuts into the square,Although this is normally what Eastenders do best they really should have cut that scene down
Disagree entirely. Cutting to the square even more would have totally ruined any of the emotions that FINALLY they got right for a change.
I agree, it would have completely ruined it. I have to say, I thought the way 9/11 was dealt with on tonight's episode was very good.
I do love EastEnders when they try different things, from the two-handers, to the episodes in Venice way back with Den and Angie, to the Remembrance Day edition. Ok, sometimes the episodes don't always work. And I don't think today's episode was perfect, but I liked the way the show incorporated 9/11. It completely took me by surprise.
Amazingly I watched a bit of TV this evening and found tonight's EastEnders really farcical. I didn't realise until now how removed the acting and storylines are from reality.
When that bloke brought up the 9/11 thing I burst out laughing. Billy (who is meant to portray a cocky hard-nut Londonder) was in tears reminising about 9/11 and I just found it so unrealistic. For a start that couldn't have been a real London tube train because from what I saw there were no black people and no one simply rememebers a news event from years ago and starts blubbering like a baby to a complete stranger on a train.
I doubt people watch soaps to be given a lesson in morals. Oh and the end scene made me chuckle, too. Honey was watching the opening credits of Only Fools & Horses on BBC1. It just makes me wonder if she had been watching EastEnders beforehand!
Appalling episode last night. More like Play for Today than a soap. If they were going to do that they should have focused the entire episode around the tube train. The 9/11 link was so tenuous. I doubt very much whether most people on the tube were thinking about that yesterday. Maybe one year on, but not five years. It would have been more relevant if they'd have linked it to 7/7. And it was the worst set I've seen on Eastenders ever! I switched over to Mastermind before the end because it was so boring.
I stumbled across the programme for a couple of minutes last night, long enough to reinforce my reasons for not watching any more.
I didn't know what was going on in the tube train, but I found it uncomfortable viewing. Having Billy monologue in a tube carriage was just plain weird - that was without seeing him "cry for 9/11".
The extras were all doing what extras do worst. Rolling of eyes and ruffling of newspapers, when in fact most people wouldn't so much as look up at some nutter talking to them. There was no realism there.
(That in itself isn't a new phenomenon on a film set. It's a bit like extras being told, "some of you are injured", and ALL of them start dragging round broken legs and clutching their heads. Too much.)
But fundamentally, it is the writing which is failing this production. Of course there have been some tender moments in the Downs Syndrome baby story, but you'd have to be a Beano writer not to get some of that right.
The show fell apart in the final few moments (which I bravely returned for) as Honey uttered the line, "Who else is there?".
Yes, I know she is rejecting her baby, but this was a line which screamed "I AM IN DENIAL", in a way which could have been handled much better. It's one thing to say, "Just the two of us".
Honey's line was a question which begged an answer.
But this being EE, lines are written at the end of scenes which simply wouldn't exist in a real-life scenario. A bit like when someone walks off and the other person stands there calling after them. As a technique it is used at least a handful of times a week. It has a function in drama, as it helps to suspend conflict between characters, but it is BAD writing to use it again and again and again. No other soap is as guilty of using this technique to the same extent.
That's my tuppencworth for the couple of minutes I watched. I haven't followed it at all for weeks hence my absence in this thread.
For a start that couldn't have been a real London tube train because from what I saw there were no black people
You what?! That really makes sense.
Billy was not neccessarily upset about 9/11, but mainly about his predicment. The reason why 9/11 was brought up was A because it was on the front page of the newspaper and B, the tube had stopped, so understandably on such a day, you would worry if you were a passenger.
As she 'somehow' steps onto the train, Billy shouts " Oi! You! Where's the baby?! You stole £20 off me!"
As if it wasn't predictable, like practically every other storyline that the beggar would reappear later in the episode. Totally out of context and unnecessary.
There is no dramatic build up in this soap anymore... its just all quick naff scriptwriting. It really really gets my goat when this somehow wins awards over other soaps.
And another thing, they have to STOP chucking in new characters every five minutes in the hope of a cover up for the lazy scriptwriting. "This week Una Stubbs joins" "Next week former Bad Girl joins..." It doesn't matter how much professionalism you throw at it - its the production that is the major importance and if EE bosses can't be bothered with that then they should all be sacked.
Predictable? Whatelse was predictable in that episode then? Sorry but you seem to use this word way to much in this thread anyway.It should be your slogan.
Do you sit with a notepad thinking of all the "predictable" things that could happen?
Predictable? Whatelse was predictable in that episode then? Sorry but you seem to use this word way to much in this thread anyway.It should be your slogan.
Do you sit with a notepad thinking of all the "predictable" things that could happen?
Was that really a half an hour episode? I liked the episode and loved the way they involved 9/11 into it ,but the train chat let them down because they never took small cuts into the square,Although this is normally what Eastenders do best they really should have cut that scene down
