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TROGGLES1,151 posts since 3 Sep 2005
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“Young Ones, Darling we’re the Young Ones”.

It looks like Jennifer Saunders will now get some peace and quiet at home to write the sequel to Ab Fab - The Movie.

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An unusual choice for the E20 suburb - I can't get 'Five go mad in Dorset' out of my head.
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rob7,581 posts since 7 Apr 2001
Meridian (South) South Today
Douglas Fielding, who played DS Roy Quick, has died.



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james-20014,961 posts since 13 Sep 2015
Central (East) East Midlands Today
Someone on DS has said they've been told by UKTV that the 24/10/89 edition has gone walkies and won't be shown on Drama when it should have been in 3 weeks time as a result.

I'm presuming UK Gold showed this episode in 1994 and 1998, so I'm wondering how it could have gone missing since then. Though we all thought the same about the 1986 episode that also went missing. It seems even now archiving isn't as good as it should be, even for high profile shows like EastEnders.

At least we've got enough time for someone to find an off air copy for us to fill in the gap.
JasonB5,080 posts since 20 Sep 2003
London London
Someone on DS has said they've been told by UKTV that the 24/10/89 edition has gone walkies and won't be shown on Drama when it should have been in 3 weeks time as a result.

I'm presuming UK Gold showed this episode in 1994 and 1998, so I'm wondering how it could have gone missing since then. Though we all thought the same about the 1986 episode that also went missing. It seems even now archiving isn't as good as it should be, even for high profile shows like EastEnders.

At least we've got enough time for someone to find an off air copy for us to fill in the gap.


I worked somewhere where some of the UKTV and Fremantle tapes were stored. It's possible it's up there somewhere. They also had the UK Gold/BBC episodes of Neighbours with episodes from 2006/2007 in the library too.
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james-20014,961 posts since 13 Sep 2015
Central (East) East Midlands Today
Interestingly, the BFI lists themselves as holding a 1" copy of the episode of EastEnders that's supposedly missing (I got the date wrong on the post I made earlier, it's the 9/11/89 episode they're skipping, not 24/10) and they're skipping next Wednesday, have the BBC not looked down this avenue?

http://collections-search.bfi.org.uk/web/Details/ChoiceFilmWorks/150366597

Possibly still time to inform them to get it transferred in time?
james-20014,961 posts since 13 Sep 2015
Central (East) East Midlands Today
I've got a response from UKTV who handed the information straight to the team responsible. Whether things can happen quickly enough to get the episode on air next Wednesday... probably not. But as least it's known this episode does still exist on a broadcast format, and hopefully will get returned to the BBC. The BFI seem to only have a handful of EastEnders episodes, so it's lucky that this is one of them (the missing 1986 episode isn't amongst them, sadly).

Actually wondering how it comes to which episodes the BFI gets copies of. When I've looked through their holdings it seems to be a fairly random selection of episodes with many shows, whereas some shows (like The Chart Show), they seem to have copies of virtually every episode. I know the BFI hold original quad tapes from many ITV companies of course, but in the post-quad era it's a lot more scattered.
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JasonB5,080 posts since 20 Sep 2003
London London
I've got a response from UKTV who handed the information straight to the team responsible. Whether things can happen quickly enough to get the episode on air next Wednesday... probably not. But as least it's known this episode does still exist on a broadcast format, and hopefully will get returned to the BBC. The BFI seem to only have a handful of EastEnders episodes, so it's lucky that this is one of them (the missing 1986 episode isn't amongst them, sadly).

Actually wondering how it comes to which episodes the BFI gets copies of. When I've looked through their holdings it seems to be a fairly random selection of episodes with many shows, whereas some shows (like The Chart Show), they seem to have copies of virtually every episode. I know the BFI hold original quad tapes from many ITV companies of course, but in the post-quad era it's a lot more scattered.


Are you actually able to view these collections that the BFI have? I think you could book a session for an hour or something like that and view what they have in their library/archive.
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james-20014,961 posts since 13 Sep 2015
Central (East) East Midlands Today
They have a webpage about it:

https://www.bfi.org.uk/archive-collections/searching-access-collections

It's possible, but doesn't look like it's the easiest thing to arrange.

Presumably you can only see what's on a viewable format though, as a fair amount of stuff still hasn't been transferred from the broadcast format tapes to VHS/DVD/Digital files that can be viewed(though it's increasing all the time, every time I look more stuff has 50i LTO masters & MP4 viewing copies added to them).
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mediaman2007461 posts since 22 Sep 2007
Are the copies the BFI hold of TV shows master copies from the broadcasters and production companies, or generally off air recordings done either by the BFI themselves or members of the public? Or both?
james-20014,961 posts since 13 Sep 2015
Central (East) East Midlands Today
Seems to be a mix of the two (some entries say acquired, sometimes giving you a date they acquired it, some say off air), though it does look like even the off air copies are on broadcast formats, so presumably could be broadcast as long as the signal was decent (with a lack of DOGs and credit announcements anyway).

The 9/11/89 EastEnders entry says "ACQUI" which I assume means it was accquired from the BBC:

http://collections-search.bfi.org.uk/web/Details/ChoiceFilmItems/153079309
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