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bilky asko
DJGM posted:
With this outage being as long as it is, and especially with how such a thing would adversely affect small businesses, as discussed earlier, it's all the more of a good reason to host your website on your own server. DIY hosting means you have full control over your website, rather than paying for and relying on a 3rd party hosting company. You only need to pay your domain name, which can work out quite low-cost depending where you get it from, and have it redirected to your server.

The only drawbacks with this method are, you have know what you're doing with regards to server administration and maintenance, and also have the computer you've setup as a server running pretty much 24/7. You'd also have to check with your internet service provider to see if their T+Cs allow home servers. The choice of server OS is also important. While Linux is usually free, the server versions of Windows are far from free, but can be easier to setup than Linux based servers ... YMMV.

You don't even have to have a keyboard, mouse, or monitor permanently attached to the server, since it could quite easily be administered as a "headless" server, via Remote Desktop (or similar) from another device.


Just a hunch, but I think Asa is more knowledgeable in this area than you.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
DJGM posted:
The only drawbacks with this method are, you have know what you're doing with regards to server administration and maintenance, and also have the computer you've setup as a server running pretty much 24/7. You'd also have to check with your internet service provider to see if their T+Cs allow home servers.

Because most domestic ISPs give you plenty of upstream bandwidth to run a busy site with.
VM
VMPhil
DJGM posted:
With this outage being as long as it is, and especially with how such a thing would adversely affect small businesses, as discussed earlier, it's all the more of a good reason to host your website on your own server. DIY hosting means you have full control over your website, rather than paying for and relying on a 3rd party hosting company. You only need to pay your domain name, which can work out quite low-cost depending where you get it from, and have it redirected to your server.

I think the point though is that these are mostly people who won't have the knowledge or want to learn about running their own server.
MA
Markymark
DJGM posted:
With this outage being as long as it is, and especially with how such a thing would adversely affect small businesses, as discussed earlier, it's all the more of a good reason to host your website on your own server. DIY hosting means you have full control over your website, rather than paying for and relying on a 3rd party hosting company. You only need to pay your domain name, which can work out quite low-cost depending where you get it from, and have it redirected to your server.

I think the point though is that these are mostly people who won't have the knowledge or want to learn about running their own server.


Indeed. And of course running your own public facing/WAN server, requires opening up ports on your firewall, which if you're not savvy enough, will be a nice wide backdoor for no end of hackers and spoof merchants. Running a webserver requires an appropriate level of technical knowledge, and continual administration
MA
madmusician
DJGM posted:
With this outage being as long as it is, and especially with how such a thing would adversely affect small businesses, as discussed earlier, it's all the more of a good reason to host your website on your own server. DIY hosting means you have full control over your website, rather than paying for and relying on a 3rd party hosting company. You only need to pay your domain name, which can work out quite low-cost depending where you get it from, and have it redirected to your server.

The only drawbacks with this method are, you have know what you're doing with regards to server administration and maintenance, and also have the computer you've setup as a server running pretty much 24/7. You'd also have to check with your internet service provider to see if their T+Cs allow home servers. The choice of server OS is also important. While Linux is usually free, the server versions of Windows are far from free, but can be easier to setup than Linux based servers ... YMMV.

You don't even have to have a keyboard, mouse, or monitor permanently attached to the server, since it could quite easily be administered as a "headless" server, via Remote Desktop (or similar) from another device.


Just a hunch, but I think Asa is more knowledgeable in this area than you.


I don't know... Titus could always come and host TVF couldn't he...?! Confused
DV
DVB Cornwall
The ad on the site now is a tad unfortunate

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VMPhil
It means the ad targeting is working at least!
SC
scottishtv Founding member
Hosting yourself would not lessen the risk of a rare power supply failure like the host experienced. The issue was their inability to cope with the issue, and recover everything back to normal in a timely fashion. Why should we expect Asa to be "on call" 24/7?

It's something no-one (including me) ever really bothers to look at, but I see their 99.99% uptime guarantee SLA specifically excludes emergency maintenance.
CW
Charlie Wells Moderator
For those who hadn't already spotted Asa's tweet this afternoon...


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Interceptor
DJGM posted:
With this outage being as long as it is, and especially with how such a thing would adversely affect small businesses, as discussed earlier, it's all the more of a good reason to host your website on your own server. DIY hosting means you have full control over your website, rather than paying for and relying on a 3rd party hosting company. You only need to pay your domain name, which can work out quite low-cost depending where you get it from, and have it redirected to your server.

The only drawbacks with this method are, you have know what you're doing with regards to server administration and maintenance, and also have the computer you've setup as a server running pretty much 24/7. You'd also have to check with your internet service provider to see if their T+Cs allow home servers. The choice of server OS is also important. While Linux is usually free, the server versions of Windows are far from free, but can be easier to setup than Linux based servers ... YMMV.

Those are the only drawbacks you can see? Wow.
BA
Bail Moderator
MW
Mike W
I was thinking more like this

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