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No complaints about DOGs, please (October 2017)

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noggin Founding member
Inspector Sands posted:
noggin posted:

Not sure they were created by BBC Research. Most hardware was created either by Designs Department or Studio Capital Projects Dept AUI - which were very separate. R&D were very much the blue-sky thinkers. If they did develop hardware to be actually deployed, it then went elsewhere to be engineered into a product and manufactured.

Both made by Designs Dept. not Research Dept.

Thanks for that, I was just using that as a generic term.


Yep - if you'd done that to someone from Designs Dept you'd have soon been corrected Wink
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IS
Inspector Sands
noggin posted:

Yep - if you'd done that to someone from Designs Dept you'd have soon been corrected Wink

Zipper
Though according to that page the BBC eventually did it themselves:

it was later decided to merge Design Group and Research Department (with significant job losses) to form a new Research and Development Department
WH
Whataday Founding member
Andrew posted:
Neil Jones posted:
noggin posted:
TVam's wasn't as sophisticated, but as it was a simple monochrome key with just hour markers and hands, it was less obtrusive in some ways. It looks electronic, but a very simple monochrome key, but it could have been keyed from a mechanical clock (or on the day the regular clock failed it could have been an electronic clock replaced by a mechanical clock keyed instead)


How could it be monochrome? The TV-am analogue clock started off yellow!

See just after 11mins in here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy4k2pg3BXw

Or do you not mean "monochrome" as in "black and white"?

There's another video on Youtube which has the timecode burnt into it of the first 3hr 15min broadcast from TV-am and if you watch it long enough the minute hand moves every 15 seconds. I'd have argued that a mechanical clock would move gradually and smoothly, not "jump" as you can see on that clock.


Talking about TV-AM, it never fails to amaze how ropey the main ident was, it looks like a picture done in felt tips, cut out and glued to a board. Meanwhile stuff like the Daybreak intro also shown in the above video, were able to use much more superior computer generated titles.


It probably looked a lot better on screen in its day though, to be fair.
GE
thegeek Founding member
JamesWorldNews posted:
I'm sitting in a waiting room of a big office block and literally peeing myself laughing at the initial indignation and seriousness with which this thread started.

I'm quite pleased as well that it turned into quite an interesting thread, even if it isn't exactly what the OP was hoping for.
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OF992
I don’t really want talk about clocks! Try to talk more about the logos.
JO
Joe
OF992 posted:
I don’t really want talk about clocks! Try to talk more about the logos.

Maybe it you clooks
WH
Whataday Founding member
OF992 posted:
I don’t really want talk about clocks! Try to talk more about the logos.


But we hate those.
OF
OF992
I like them. I think clocks should only be used on news and live broadcasts. I hate the CBBC DOG, because it’s animated and full colour, and like the UTV one. Cartoonito's DOG is a very bad offender, as it is squished, opaque and in full colour. My favourite kind of DOG is a white or grey 50% transparent one that animates every 5 minutes to prevent screen burn. Who agrees with me?
JO
Joe
OF992 posted:
it is not a thread to complain about DOGs, so no "I hate DOGs, they're useless"

OF992 posted:
I hate the CBBC DOG
EL
elmarko
To be fair he did provide his reasons...
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
OF992 posted:
I don’t really want talk about clocks! Try to talk more about the logos.


I'm sorry* we've talked about clocks that were on screen what is now the best part of 35 years ago, but they are the DOGs of their time and some of us actually remember a time when we only had four channels and could watch TV without having a channel name stuck in the corner 24/7.

*This may or may not be true.
BL
bluecortina
Neil Jones posted:
OF992 posted:
I don’t really want talk about clocks! Try to talk more about the logos.


I'm sorry* we've talked about clocks that were on screen what is now the best part of 35 years ago, but they are the DOGs of their time and some of us actually remember a time when we only had four channels and could watch TV without having a channel name stuck in the corner 24/7.

*This may or may not be true.


Some of us remember when we only had two channels. Does anyone remember when they only had one?

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