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(March 2018)

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RI
Richard
Nice mix of styles there - ‘Granada’ is in the classic typeface whereas ‘Production’ is in the style of the 2001 Granada logo (purple endcaps era)

I wonder if there was a cinema/cinemas showing that film that had adverts from Carlton Screen Advertising before it? ITV taking over the cinema!


Pearl and Dean was owned by SMG at one point too..
SW
Steve Williams
That was the point of it though - at a time when it was quite difficult to see a lot of independent, 'arthouse' or foreign language films, here was a channel specialising in them and showing them uncut, advert free and in their original aspect ratio for £6 per month. In the late 90s / early 2000s that was something quite unique and very appealing to film buffs. it wasn't quite as niche as you remember- whilst it was very different from the Film4 of today it had a really interesting mix of films, including some well known classics. I had the channel for a while on On Digital and it was an interesting alternative to Sky Movies which was more blockbuster focused then than the slightly broader range of films it now shows.


Yes, it was quite the talking point when it began, lots of people were very excited about it. I remember there was a big piece about it on Right to Reply at the time, because a viewer only wanted to subscribe to Film Four and didn't want any other channel at all, and moaned at great length about how you had to subscribe to other channels as well.

The opening night in 1998 was simulcast on Channel 4- and presented by Johnny Vaughan.


Yes, and the week before Channel Four had a special week of programming with particularly acclaimed Films on Four every night. The opening night was indeed simulcast on C4, but with one difference - the films had adverts in them on Channel Four but not on Film Four. The films all started at the same time but ended earlier on Fim Four so they had a couple of short films while C4 caught up. There were a couple of other occasions when they simulcast (with adverts) - they did so for their first anniversary, and I remember watching Reservoir Dogs in April 1999 which was being shown on both, I think they billed it as the first in a series of simulcasts.

Johnny Vaghan did have a film review show in 1999 - called, er, The Johnny Vaughan Film Show - but it was on Channel Four, not Film Four.

Granada made the 2001 American film, Ghost World. They also made a couple of made for TV films for ITV back in the late 1990’s.


They did indeed, including this one - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girls'_Night

I'm not sure it got a theatrical release in Britain, it did elsewhere, but I remember ITV billing it as a film premiere when they showed it in 1999, and William Phillips in Broadcast referred to as the first "Film on Three". I'm not sure much else came out of that, though.

And when Sky Movies became Sky Premier, when they were supposed to be turning it into the British HBO (when they were going to show comedy and drama on it, before they changed their mind and put all that on Sky One instead), one of the big new selling points was that they were going to be commissioning their own films. I think they only made one, though - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tube_Tales
sbahnhof 7 and UKnews gave kudos
TE
tesandco Founding member
I'm... actually wondering if someone is secretly onto me here. I read this thread earlier this evening, and then the very next tape I put in the VCR to start looking through for anything interesting featured a trailer for that simulcast launch night of FilmFour in 1998!

S7
sbahnhof 7
Did the VHS make that ad sound very bassy? Or was it just that era's overblown Channel 4 style "voiceover done by a bloke with twelve testicles"? (© The Games)
TE
tesandco Founding member
Hard to be sure on that one without having access to either a broadcast quality copy, or at least a VHS one with a hifi audio track. That recording was done in Long Play with the bog standard linear track, which usually crushes a lot of the frequency response to start with.

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DV
DVB Cornwall
News today that Channel 4 has made a significant profit on ‘Three Billboards’ I’ll link to the article later.
AM
amosc100
Surprised no one has mentioned Granada's most famous and successful film - My Left Foot.
JO
Jonwo
I assume any profits Film4 makes goes back into the funding of other Film4 projects. The Inbetweeners Movie 1 and 2 made a huge profit just from the UK alone and that's not including Oscar winners like 12 Years a Slave and Slumdog Millionaire.


It's interesting how some films produced by Film4 and BBC Films come to TV pretty quickly like Lady in the Van but others like Brooklyn or Far from the Madding Crowd take the normal 2-2.5 year window, I guess it depends on how money they put it.
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
More probably with the agreements made during production; I dare say those that are made for cinema release fall into the typical release pattern of Cinema -> Lull -> Pay TV (Sky/Netflix etc) -> Blu-Ray/DVD -> (months later) anybody who asks. Those that premiere at festivals tend to end up on DVD or Netflix/Sky relatively quickly and often don't get any further, usually because they don't feature big names and often disappear under most people's radars. Yet a lot of the festival films I find are quite good - not massive budgets but not shoestrings either. Sky Cinema used to pad its on-demand offering out with a lot of these, though it has drifted back towards more mainstream recently.
DV
DVB Cornwall
News today that Channel 4 has made a significant profit on ‘Three Billboards’ I’ll link to the article later.


Here's the link



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