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How does Film4 work?

(March 2018)

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MA
Markymark

I remember the first time the Cricket moved to FilmFour they failed / forgot to switch off (or change to FTV) the encryption on Sky. I and many others were left with a blue screen and a message about subscribing!


There was often a simulcast overlap between C4 and F4, but the ad breaks were not simulcast on F4, it just stayed with a 'beauty shot', or carried on with the action from the Cricket or Racing event, albeit without commentary.
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DO
dosxuk
Horse racing used Film 4 for the support races at the big meetings like Cheltenham festival as it meant the main channel could put countdown on without upsetting the racing fans who only watch the big meetings.

When cricket and racing were on the same day, I don't think racing was ever on Film4, cricket probably was. On those days at racing only about 10 minutes was spent on each race, with everyone standby'd for the other 20 minutes till the build up for the next race (but never stood down, as any break of play, e.g. rain, would get it back on-air to help fill too).
BR
Brekkie
I think originally it was branded something like 4Extra for the cricket but they soon just started referring to it as FilmFour.
DV
DVB Cornwall
Don't forget Film Four (and BBC Films) are used as vehicles to distribute Government Arts and National Lottery funding to commercial film productions made, significantly in or, by UK film makers. As a result of this they jump the broadcasting rights queues for these titles, and also can leverage this when negotiating other title rights too.
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
BBC Films has had hands in some success stories over the years (as well as trash and opportunistic fluff - such as Mrs Browns Boys D'Movie for example which was such a let-down compared to the TV show and it was clearly a cash-in opportunity). I find some of the output relatively gritty and straight down to earth, though of course YMMV on this. The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas was fairly hard-hitting, particularly its ending (which I shan't spoil).
JA
james-2001
Wasn't Billy Elliot made by BBC Films?
BR
Brekkie
Have any of the ITV companies ever got involved in the film world. I know Carlton had a movie channel, Carlton Cinema, in the early days of ONDigital but I doubt they ever made any, though surely Granada must have dipped their toe in the water at some point. ABC had a cinema chain but did they make movies also?
JA
james-2001
Carlton Cinema ran through the entirety of, and even outlived On/ITV Digital on cable. It didn't close until 2003.

They did have other channels that didn't outlast the early days of On Digital though, like Kids and World.
IS
Inspector Sands
Have any of the ITV companies ever got involved in the film world. I know Carlton had a movie channel, Carlton Cinema, in the early days of ONDigital but I doubt they ever made any, though surely Granada must have dipped their toe in the water at some point. ABC had a cinema chain but did they make movies also?

Well Carlton STV and Granada were both involved in cinemas in various ways


As for making films, if you watch Memphis Belle one if the first credits is for British Satellite Broadcasting, they part funded the film
Last edited by Inspector Sands on 5 March 2018 9:34pm
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
Wasn't Billy Elliot made by BBC Films?


Billy Elliot was a co-production between BBC Films, Tiger Aspect and Working Title. A cheap film (compared to some Hollywood productions anyway) and it paid off handsomely. Not a bad film either but then I'm pretty much a sucker for films set in the 1980s. Smile
SE
Square Eyes Founding member
Don't ITV Studios own one of the largest British feature film archives? Films from Rank, ITC (a subsidiary of ATV back in the day, which was later sold to Carlton) amongst others.
JA
james-2001
I'm sure I read that ITV own the largest film archive outside of Hollywood... but that was about 10 years ago so things might have changed.

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