I was listening to Iain Lee on Absolute radio, and he just happened to mention that whenever Channel 4 repeat a bloopers show that has a clip of him in it, a short clip of 'The 11 O'Clock Show' that he did years ago, he gets £250. Now these blooper shows I thought would be some of the cheapest programming to repeat, because they often get used to fill slots on digital channels.
So i'm interested to find out just how much it costs to repeat different types of programmes. For example, how much would it cost G.O.L.D to repeat an episode of 'Only Fools and Horses'. Surely the actors would have to be paid, the music would have to be cleared and many other things.
There is a difference between repeating a programme and clip sales. Also there's a difference between the BBC selling a programme to UKTV etc and them repeating it themselves.
As I understand it how much mainly depends on the contracts for the artists, writers etc made when the programme was produced. Traditionally I think a programme could be shown twice and then everyone had to be re-paid for another showing. However when 'multi-channel' TV came along and programmes were sold to digital channels for multiple repeats contracts were renegotiated and artists were 'bought out' for those showings. So my understanding is that for the current BBC1 repeats of OFAH David Jason et al would get a nice payment, but for those on GOLD they'd get far less, probably nothing
Clip sales are very different; buying and showing a 30 second clip of a programme could cost a couple of hundred pounds, how these work when shown again
The 'blooper show' thing is different again. I know Aunties Bloomers/Outtake TV had a finder's fee, and the person featured got the same too but this was a one-off fee.
It will depend on the type of programme, whether you're repeating it as a whole or using clips from it, how the programme was originally made (i.e. what original contractual arrangements were made etc.)
A sitcom or dramamay have repeat fees for actors, writers etc., and these fees may vary depending on the outlet audience size. They could be pretty big for a BBC One repeat - particularly if the show was made a while back - as more recent productions may have less generous repeat terms (or the original TX window may be quite large).
An entertainment show may have fees to pay to musicians, backing singers and dancers, performers etc.
Factual shows with entirely BBC shot content and no 3rd party archive or stills could be pretty cheap to repeat - in some cases free.
I have a family-friend who is a television/radio drama writer, formerly based in Leeds for Yorkshire Television.
Since ITV3 started, he gets an invoice every so often which never amounts to much. The real surprises come when the programming is sold internationally (for the first time).
I have a family-friend who is a television/radio drama writer, formerly based in Leeds for Yorkshire Television.
Since ITV3 started, he gets an invoice every so often which never amounts to much. The real surprises come when the programming is sold internationally (for the first time).
Yes, when people get repeat payments they can often be for very tiny amounts, although over time they all add up.
I recently heard about someone I know who appears on one of those ads that's repeated endlessly on the smaller digital channels. Apparently the company were a little inexperienced at making commercials and so paid him per showing rather than a one-off fee.... a nice little income
Factual shows with entirely BBC shot content and no 3rd party archive or stills could be pretty cheap to repeat - in some cases free.
Although of course the BBC would charge another TV company to repeat it or show a clip from it
Yes - though there are occasions when clips can be used for zero cost under "fair dealing" law in the UK - where the clip is subject to "criticism or review" - though this is usually more used for drama, sit com, entertainment where there is a performance to discuss.
Of course if the clip is used for other purposes, or the entire show is sold, then that is different. For internal repeats - the costs vary hugely. For acquired programmes the rules are also complicated by simulcasting vs separate showing on the BBC HD channel - and the contract under which the show was acquired.
Top Gear is a prime example of a repeat programme. I believe they get relatively little from Dave who show repeats but I believe a substantial element of the presenters money comes from the sale of series to countries such as Australia and America.
Top Gear is a prime example of a repeat programme. I believe they get relatively little from Dave who show repeats but I believe a substantial element of the presenters money comes from the sale of series to countries such as Australia and America.
Yes, as mentioned above the rights involved in sales to digital channels like Dave are 'bought out'. If they had to pay for every showing it just wouldn't be worth acquiring in the first place
Yes - though there are occasions when clips can be used for zero cost under "fair dealing" law in the UK - where the clip is subject to "criticism or review" - though this is usually more used for drama, sit com, entertainment where there is a performance to discuss.
Would an example be This Morning showing a clip from the previous night's EastEnders, because they have an actor from the programme in the studio as a guest? Or Channel 4 doing a '10 Best Villains' programme and showing a clip of Dirty Den from the 80s? Often the recordings used are very poor in the latter case, and appear at times to even be off-air VHS copies.
Yes - though there are occasions when clips can be used for zero cost under "fair dealing" law in the UK - where the clip is subject to "criticism or review" - though this is usually more used for drama, sit com, entertainment where there is a performance to discuss.
Would an example be This Morning showing a clip from the previous night's EastEnders, because they have an actor from the programme in the studio as a guest? Or Channel 4 doing a '10 Best Villains' programme and showing a clip of Dirty Den from the 80s? Often the recordings used are very poor in the latter case, and appear at times to even be off-air VHS copies.
Yes - you have to source the material independently (off-air recording, Youtube, whatever) - you wouldn't approach the original broadcaster for a copy (they'd charge you to provide it) You can fair deal content from your own broadcaster if you need to in some situations.
The normal giveaway is when the material is fully credited (programme title, production company and/or broadcaster and often a director credit)
If the clip has a transmission time & Channel on it - then that has usually been obtained for promotional purposes rather than by fair dealing.