Doctor Who- The New Series (W/O spoilers)

The Daleks happened in the 1930.

The cliffhanger to last saturdays episode was in my opinion the most gripping Doctor Who has ever produced. But was i the only one who thought that it was a bit extreme having 'Bad Wolf' references on the TARDIS itself?

But we're talking the Doctor's timeline.. aren't we?

Oh gawd...

In the Doctor's timeline, DIM happened before he met Donna. It was before the Runaway bride, this was all about events on earth after he met (or when he would have met) Donna.

torchwood 3 died on the sontaran ship which came after the daleks in the "doctor's" timeline therefore its possible they had something to do with it.
torchwood 3 died in the sontaran attack which is series 4, after daleks in manhatten.

course the cult of skaro dimension shifted so its possible rose's own dimension shifting could have altered the fabric of space in a way that prevented that particular event from occurring

It's quite often happened that the TARDIS has translated the speech but not the writing.

It definitely happened in Series 1: Boomtown - Blydd Drwgg (possibly misspelt) as the name of the power station (=Bad Wolf)

I think there was some Latin writing untranslated in Fires of Pompeii too.

I have to say that after two episodes that were a bit wishy washy (The Doctor's Daughter & TUATW) that I was a bit worried this series had lost it's way.

However both Midnight & Turn Left have been superb.

Midnight may have been all talk, talk, talk & no running but the drama in it was superb, there wasn't a dud performance in it at all. BTW is it just me but, if they ever do a multi Doctor story in the future, with a wig & without his glasses David Troughton would be a great stand in for his Father, I mean obivously he's Patrick's son but with a wig you'd be hard pressed to tell.

Turn Left was a great "What If..." story and played a nice game of seeing how events would have been had Donna never met the Doctor. One odd thing as others say is the whole Daleks in Manhattan storyline got avoided. Although as mentioned it's in the past of the Doctor's timeline the fact he died had he not met Donna then Martha would have been dead & so...... argh Timey-Wimey, Wibbley-Wobbly

It's going to be interesting to see how they manage to squeeze the main actors' names into the opening sequence on Saturday. By the look of the trailer Jack and Martha are both in it; so that's at least 5 names to flash up in a rather short space of time.

Although Sarah Jane appears in the trailer, I don't think she was mentioned in the title sequence for "School Reunion" , although that could change since she has her own spin-off series now.

I suppose if there were 6 names they could always double up the last 4.

It'll probably be

DAVID TENNANT

CATHERINE TATE

OTHERS FROM THE LAST FOUR YEARS

Indeed. There's something very recognisable about the features of the Troughtons. Particularly the eyes and the jawline/mouth area I think.

In all honesty though, if there were ever any new multi-Doctor story, I imagine there's no way in hell that they'd re-cast past Doctors. So, Doctors 1 - 3 would either have to be not in it at all, or courtesy of clever "computer jiggery pokery" etc*.

* (Like that prostate cancer charity advert with the late Bob Monkhouse in it. That used a mixture of genuine footage of the man himself, along with some examples of his face/head stuck onto a suit-wearing "body double" for longshots. In some shots, his mouth movements had been digitally manipulated to match the dialogue the advert had given him. And the audio was a mixture of some genuine Monkhouse soundbites, and a "soundalike" voice artist).

That advert took something ridiculous like a year or more (or something) to create - all for about 30-seconds of TV! Translate that to a full-length programme, and it's more trouble than it's worth. Not least of all considering that most of the material available for Doctors 1 and 2 is monochrome.

And the surviving past Doctors, to varying degrees, look too different/older from in their day. Yes, there's always the "shorted out the time differential" explanation available - as used in Time Crash. But Tom Baker in particular looks way way way too different. Curly brown hair is such a fundamental aspect of the 4th Doctors appearance.

And it'd be no good sticking a wig on Tom. When one's hair greys/whitens with age, one's complexion also pales a bit along with it. Put dark hair on a person who's gone grey, and it'll make their face seem Michael Jackson-coloured in comparison! Trying to remedy this with "fake tan" or whatever would just achieve that "desperately-clinging-onto-youth-in-the-most-unconvincing-and-awful-way" kind of look. Tom deserves better than to be made to look so daft as all that.

So, let's face it, there's SO many reasons why a new multi-Doctor story is not a very good idea.

Well you could do it with Docs 5, 7, 8-10 but again I think the only likely multi Doc story we'd ever have is with 8 onwards.

Tom is now too old to do it anyway, not been ageist, but I believe he's had a knee op a few years back & been 75 he'd be harldy unable to dart round like he did in the 70's.

Peter Davison does get away with it mostly (as witness in Timecrash) so that could happen again.

Colin Baker again looks nothing like he did in the role so wouldn't be recognisable at all, even on Top Gear with the coat on he wasn't instantly recognisable.

Sylvester, ast time I saw him, didn't look much different so again could get away with.

Indeed they are the only ones who still look recognisable enough for it to work. But then it'd be very weird to explain narratively.

You'd expect either all incarnations (thus far) to be brought together by a third-party for some purpose (as was the case, albeit for two very different reasons in each case, in both The Three Doctors and The Five Doctors ).

Or for perhaps just two incarnations to genuinely "bump into" each other etc (as was essentially the case in The Two Doctors - as the 6th Dr said in that story: "When you travel around time as much as I do, you're bound to bump into yourself at some point!" (apologies if that's slightly paraphrased))

Just having 5, and 7-10 would seem so random, and probably hard to narratively justify.



Even that's not entirely assured. Eccleston seems to have the same wary-about-returning attitude that Tom Baker had in the 1980s. Until or unless that fades, you'd probably only actually have Paul McGann (if any) willing to return.



Even with the coat on, he isn't?! Blimey, that's really saying something! I do agree though - Colin's 2nd only to Tom in terms of looking-too-different.

Funny how even Colin himself was amongst the many who were less-than-enthused about the 6th Dr's costume, at the time. Nowadays, it's a bloody good job that it's something so utter unmistakable, as otherwise he'd probably even be totally ignored by the even the most uber-anoraky of fans, even if he was standing on a stage at a Convention, with a huge sign behind him saying "Colin Baker", as he looks so different!

So, all these years later, that ridiculous costume is really a blessing, as it's about the only thing that attributes him as he looks now to Dr Who!