I don't think Rose placed the Bad Wolf messages subconsciously - I think she did it quite deliberately once she became the Bad Wolf. I think it says a lot that she had all that power over time and space and the only thing she did was save the Doctor (and bring Jack back from the dead).
Calling him "my Doctor" was interesting too - it sounded like something the TARDIS might say, if it could speak.
I don't think Rose placed the Bad Wolf messages subconsciously - I think she did it quite deliberately once she became the Bad Wolf. I think it says a lot that she had all that power over time and space and the only thing she did was save the Doctor (and bring Jack back from the dead).
Calling him "my Doctor" was interesting too - it sounded like something the TARDIS might say, if it could speak.
David
But that's it!!! Rose had consumed the time vortex from the Heart of The Tardis...for all accounts then she could be speaking for the Tardis and actually therefore insinuating that the Tardis had planned the bad wolf thing through Rose in order for the Bad Wolf to be the saviour of humanity....not a threat. The Bad Wolf was bad for the daleks and saviour to humans. After all, if the Tardis has a heart, then it must have the ability to express power via the the time vortex. God! I'm even more confused now!
Incidentally, due to the popularity of the new series, i have re-opened and re-designed my old Doctor Who forum i made many moons ago just after the new series was announced.
Sorry I still don't really understand the whole bad wolf thing, I wish the end had made more sense.
Does anyone know when the last episode was finished? It seems that the BBC were less than honest about the future of the show. It seems clear now there was never any possibility of eccleston doing a second series and tennant had been signed up quite some time ago, I wasnt expecting to see him until the christmas episode.
Sorry I still don't really understand the whole bad wolf thing, I wish the end had made more sense.
It's sci-fi with a touch of fantasy. I wouldn't attempt to over-think it.
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Does anyone know when the last episode was finished? It seems that the BBC were less than honest about the future of the show. It seems clear now there was never any possibility of eccleston doing a second series and tennant had been signed up quite some time ago, I wasnt expecting to see him until the christmas episode.
It was always going to be this way. It should have been a surprise, but someone cocked up.
It was always going to be this way. It should have been a surprise, but someone cocked up.
Yes, the tabloid press cocked up by giving the game away. The reason, I believe, that there was no press screening for the final episode (only a BAFTA screening) or the whole plot would have been printed straight away.
It was always going to be this way. It should have been a surprise, but someone cocked up.
Yes, the tabloid press cocked up by giving the game away. The reason, I believe, that there was no press screening for the final episode (only a BAFTA screening) or the whole plot would have been printed straight away.
Actually I understood it was a BBC Press Office man who made the announcement the day after the first episode aired. Probably in a rush to give the hungry reporters something of substance to print (along with all those good reviews).
I met one of the Bafta judges on Thursday. Nice man. Told me how many DVD's he gets through his doors every morning.
Actually I understood it was a BBC Press Office man who made the announcement the day after the first episode aired. Probably in a rush to give the hungry reporters something of substance to print (along with all those good reviews).
Yeah it was leaked to the press somehow and the tabloids threatened to release the information so the BBC made a rushed official announcement that he wouldn't be staying...
Sorry I still don't really understand the whole bad wolf thing, I wish the end had made more sense.
It makes perfect sense, but it is a paradox. You saw "bad wolf" throughout the series.
Rose at the point she saw bad wolf written on the walls and in the yard was about to give up...about to listen to the doctor and leave the TARDIS alone. Seeing bad wolf- something she's seen many times before- was a call for action, triggering her not to give up but to work out a way of getting back to the doctor.
So how (and why) did bad wolf get scattered through time?
Well- when Rose arrives back to rescue the doctor she sees "Bad Wolf" written on the wall and decides to send it back through time (through all her experiences in time travel) to increase the chance of her realising what she has to do to get to that point- this is why it is a paradox....she's sending out a message to get to the point she is already at (but we must presume that without that message being spread through time she wouldn't have been convinced to try and return to the doctor).
So Bad Wolf is nothing more than the name of a TV corporation that Rose happened to see and use as a "time Post-it note" to stimulate herself into action when she saw it again in another time.
Why "Bad Wolf" and not "Rose- get your ass to the future NOW!"?
Well, the obvious answer is that it was in front of her in big letters and therefore she just used the first thing she saw. The more subtle (but barely so) explanation is that Bad Wolf is a media corporation with too much power...the link between Wolves and Foxes is not really subtle at all.
It's probably Russell T Davies little bit of satire- Bad Wolf TV Corp = Fox TV Corp. And he wanted to make sure everyone was talking about this little play on words so made it the crux of the series solution.
Incidentally- some might see this as a bit of spoiler, so highlight away below:
Russell T Davies has also said there's a similar word-based theme for series 2 (a word or words we've already heard, and will hear again in "The Christmas Invasion")
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Does anyone know when the last episode was finished? It seems that the BBC were less than honest about the future of the show. It seems clear now there was never any possibility of eccleston doing a second series and tennant had been signed up quite some time ago, I wasnt expecting to see him until the christmas episode.
Tennant filmed his single scene by himself- Billie Piper performed her lines and reaction only with Eccleston. And yes it was meant to be a big secret- you can blame the tabloids again. If everything had gone to Russell T Davies' plan, you shouldn't have heard anything about Eccleston's departure or Tennant's signing (which was apparently sorted out months and months ago) until the final seconds of Saturday's show.
You weren't meant to know Eccleston was leaving (after all they haven't started filming series 2 yet) before Saturday. Now that would have been one hell of an ending.
Is Norton Anti-Virus software stopping me from viewing the Doctor Who homepage how it should be? At work I see the logo and the effects at the top of the page but I don't at home. IT'S DRIVING ME MAD!!
