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Doctor Who: The New Series

(February 2005)

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DO
dodrade
Marcus posted:


Russell conceived the entire season, wrote the outline for each story, commissioned the scripts and had complete control over every word that went into the series.As an executive producer he was one of the three people who have worked their guts out on every aspect of the programme and without Russell there would, quite simply, be no series.

You should be down on your knees worshiping the man rather than making snide remarks about stuff you obviously know nothing about.


OK, he has had considerable input into the entire series, but we are over halfway through the series and its clear to me that it has been one of two halves, the davies episodes and those written by others, and the latter has so far beaten the other every time.

As for the show not existing without him, the BBC made the decision first to recommission Dr Who, then asked him to do it. If he'd said no, i'm sure someone else would have done it. As it is, he'll probably only spend another year or two on the show, and it will continue fine without him.

And I certainly will not worship him, as I haven't really been the biggest fan of his other work. The second coming especially I found as a christian far more offensive then jerry springer the opera, with the ending SPOILER after God dies, everyone starts being nice to each other END SPOILER ludicrous.
EJ
EJNutz
The problem that I have with DR Who, and I have to admit it is good especially the writing and special effects, it should be retitled Dr Rose and family. In my opinion there are two many stories featuring the family. This is Dr Who and his adventures.
MS
Mr-Stabby
Yes most definitely. However I think that in Series 2 the Doctor will feature a lot more. Especially as Rose's story will have been pretty much told by that time, and there will be a new doctor to deal with.
NU
The Nurse
dodrade posted:
The second coming especially I found as a christian far more offensive then jerry springer the opera, with the ending SPOILER after God dies, everyone starts being nice to each other END SPOILER ludicrous.


Aha, now we find out the real reason why you don't like RTD! Very Happy

To address the point about Rose and family; what the hardcore Sci-Fi spods need to realise (not saying that you two are) is that for a programme like this to pull in the massive amount of viewers it has been (and therefore to continue to receive a big budget), it has to appeal to the masses. This is one of the main reasons why stuff is set on Earth. Maybe, as Mr Stabby says this will reduce a bit once Rose's story has been told, but Earth-based stories with a strong focus on the relationship between the Doctor, Rose and other humans is ALWAYS going to play a big part in the New Who.

Take that away and everybody but the Sci-Fi spods will switch off.
PO
Pootle5
Tonight's reminded me of Saphire & Steel - the memory of some of those still freak me out!
SM
smtver
jonty09 posted:
The problem that I have with DR Who, and I have to admit it is good especially the writing and special effects, it should be retitled Dr Rose and family. In my opinion there are two many stories featuring the family. This is Dr Who and his adventures.

Well i like the way they do that.They're the best ones!
BA
Bail Moderator
For me that was the best episode ever!
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A former member
I hate to draw comparisons (and I aplogoise if anyone else has as I haven't read the entire thread) but this new Doctor Who series reminds me more of Aardman Animations' 'Wallace & Gromit' and series.

In that Rose is the more intelligent Gromit character, and the Doctor through CE is definitely the Wallace character - right down to the facial and bodily movements of the plasticine character.

Every time CE pulls that stupid grin and waves his hands, all I can see is the Wallace character. Even his ears look the same...

As for RTD - he should no longer have anything to do with the series - all the episodes he has had major influence on have been loo fodder. Doctor Who has never been about the companions - it has been about circumstances. Keeping on going back to Rose's past is a complete waste of time, and a poor excuse for finding storylines.

Still, that's my €0.02 worth...
NE
Neil__
Andrew Wood posted:
As for RTD - he should no longer have anything to do with the series - all the episodes he has had major influence on have been loo fodder. Doctor Who has never been about the companions - it has been about circumstances. Keeping on going back to Rose's past is a complete waste of time, and a poor excuse for finding storylines.


Well, you might as well pull the whole series, seeign as RTD had control over every aspect of what appeared on our screens.

And going back to Rose and her connections is what keeps the show grounded, relevant to viewers and keeping them watching.

If you don't like what has been done with the new Who for the 21st century, there is a huge library of 1960s-1980s Who that you can watch off VHS or DVD.

Some of us happen to think this series is pretty amazing.

And, my god, was tonight's episode scary in places or what? Smile
DA
David_02
Neil Green posted:
And, my god, was tonight's episode scary in places or what? Smile


Yeah! My brother just had a nightmare about it. He's nine, but that was definitely the scariest episode for me.
JA
jay Founding member
Mummy? Are you my Mummy? Let me in mummy, I'm scared of the bombs...

That voice is so creepy!
WE
Westy2
Cerulean Sunrise posted:
Call for old repeats on BBC2 anyone??


Depends what they repeat, bearing in mind they pulled off Pertwee after 11 episodes, then jumped ahead 5 years to the first Tom Baker Dalek story, then gave up & put bl**dy Will Smith/Simpsons on again.

Repeats.

First no imagination from the TV companies.(Fools & Horses, Frost or Open All Hours, as long as it features David bl**dy Jason !)

Second, greedy actors/production team wanting a decent cut, or doesn't fit in with the person's current CV. (Rumour has it Jason isn't keen on his earlier stuff repeated, I read somewhere. By the way if Martin Shaw wasn't keen on 'Professionals' repeats, how the hell did he agree to 'Doctor In The House' repeats?)

Third, probably lost the tape.

Fourth, if it don't appeal to current audiences, yanked mid run, & sod the hard core viewer.

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