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They must be gaining self-awareness - they'll be coming to exterminate us next....
harshy posted:
this is what happens when you put your faith into robots!
They must be gaining self-awareness - they'll be coming to exterminate us next....
GA
Tis a bit embarrasing - I wonder how the regions coped if the promo before Doctor Who didn't fail with them.
Nations Nicky, Nations! And happily, thanks.
PS, Doctor Who was fantastic.
yes, I liked how Scotland just shot right into it. Very slick.
We didn't get Graham Norton leakage in Scotland did we? I don't remember it at any rate.
No we certainly didn't. I taped it, and was horrified before watching the episode to hear what had happened. All way through watching it, I was looking out for it, but nothing
Excellent start to the series!
Gary
Founding member
Hymagumba posted:
marksi posted:
NickyS posted:
Andrew Wood posted:
Maybe not ruined, but I sat in disbelief that such a foul-up could have happened on so important a premiere.
Tis a bit embarrasing - I wonder how the regions coped if the promo before Doctor Who didn't fail with them.
Nations Nicky, Nations! And happily, thanks.
PS, Doctor Who was fantastic.
yes, I liked how Scotland just shot right into it. Very slick.
We didn't get Graham Norton leakage in Scotland did we? I don't remember it at any rate.
No we certainly didn't. I taped it, and was horrified before watching the episode to hear what had happened. All way through watching it, I was looking out for it, but nothing
Excellent start to the series!
HD
You would almost think that the LNN Network Directors have moved into the BBC.
Asa posted:
So was it the case some of the nations missed part of the titles? I'd have thought that if Network pulled the trail after it didn't run, it caught the nations on the hop who did manage to run the trail then the ident/anno into the programme?
Sod's law something had to go wrong. I'm sure the Network director is pretty gutted tonight.
Sod's law something had to go wrong. I'm sure the Network director is pretty gutted tonight.
You would almost think that the LNN Network Directors have moved into the BBC.
DE
Perhaps they should have called this first episode "Terror of the Auto(matio)ns". 
As regards which Nations lost part of the opening titles...
In Northern Ireland:
Analogue viewers missed approx' the first 3 seconds of vision, although the director did manage to lead the audio over the end of the Hustle trail and then cut straight to Doctor Who.
Digital viewers missed approx' the first 15 seconds of the opening titles as the director carried on with the junction as planned.
No rights or wrongs here... it's a split second choice that has to be made when faced with a network junction that is going tits-up.
As regards which Nations lost part of the opening titles...
In Northern Ireland:
Analogue viewers missed approx' the first 3 seconds of vision, although the director did manage to lead the audio over the end of the Hustle trail and then cut straight to Doctor Who.
Digital viewers missed approx' the first 15 seconds of the opening titles as the director carried on with the junction as planned.
No rights or wrongs here... it's a split second choice that has to be made when faced with a network junction that is going tits-up.
JH
Which is entirely understandable, but misplaced anger.
Why is that misplaced anger? Seems reasonable to me to blame TX.
It's misplaced because he's blaming "an idiot" when he has no idea whether the problem was caused by a human or by equipment failure.
You might well be right, but I very much doubt that a problem of that sort would be caused by equipment failure. It sounded to me as though live audio from the previous programme was simply faded up over the TX of Doctor Who, not once but on three separate ocassions. That's pretty bad. Even if some sort of failure had caused the first breakthrough of sound (audience cheers and clapping) then an engineer should have been on to that like a shot. Instead, a minute or so later we got Graham Norton (of all people) talking across the Doctor Who sound. I don't know that it spoiled the first episode but it must've been deeply embarrassing for the BBC, especially with the trail cock-up immediately before, too.
marksi posted:
Jonathan H posted:
marksi posted:
Steve Hyden posted:
Just spotted this on another forum: . . . . . . .
I worked 14 hours a day, 7 days a week, since September, only to have some idiot at transmission mess up all our hard work. This was meant to be the proudest night of my career. I am absolutely gutted that the only thing that will be talked about will be the Graham Norton voiceover instead of the dramatic elements of audio that we created for the show..
Paul McFadden
Sound Designer/Dialogue Editor
Doctor Who Sound Crew
I worked 14 hours a day, 7 days a week, since September, only to have some idiot at transmission mess up all our hard work. This was meant to be the proudest night of my career. I am absolutely gutted that the only thing that will be talked about will be the Graham Norton voiceover instead of the dramatic elements of audio that we created for the show..
Paul McFadden
Sound Designer/Dialogue Editor
Doctor Who Sound Crew
Which is entirely understandable, but misplaced anger.
Why is that misplaced anger? Seems reasonable to me to blame TX.
It's misplaced because he's blaming "an idiot" when he has no idea whether the problem was caused by a human or by equipment failure.
You might well be right, but I very much doubt that a problem of that sort would be caused by equipment failure. It sounded to me as though live audio from the previous programme was simply faded up over the TX of Doctor Who, not once but on three separate ocassions. That's pretty bad. Even if some sort of failure had caused the first breakthrough of sound (audience cheers and clapping) then an engineer should have been on to that like a shot. Instead, a minute or so later we got Graham Norton (of all people) talking across the Doctor Who sound. I don't know that it spoiled the first episode but it must've been deeply embarrassing for the BBC, especially with the trail cock-up immediately before, too.
SH
So human error or equipment failure? either way problems do occur in broadcasting especially when using automation software - a computer in charge is fine until it goes tits up!
However what amazes me is that the actually sound bleed was apparent just after the titles - there was an underlying background noise - it only became more evident when 'Terror of the Nortons' opened his mouth and we got the crowd cheering.
So why wasn't it picked up earlier? How can one channel bleed into another? Is this down to equipment or an engineer not doing their job properly? Why was there no apology?
I say again 10 million pounds budget, mammoth publicity - only to be let down in the last link of the chain.
If I was the newly appointed BBC One Controller I would be asking a certain department 'What the hell are you doing with my channel?
If it's down to automation problems then the manufacturers and programmers should serioulsy be having backsides kicked, if it's human errror then don't put the trainee on a Saturday night shift!
What amazes me more than anything that with all the problems in presentation at the BBC recently - with such a major TV event happening - there was no safety blanket in place - we can blame individuals or equipment but also department managers who know the system is naff and technical problems have been too often, continue to let it happen.
Yes I know it's only Dr Who and yes I know it was only for a few minutes and the world hasn't ended - but after all the hype I just felt deflated by it so God knows how the cast and crew felt.
Shame really.
However what amazes me is that the actually sound bleed was apparent just after the titles - there was an underlying background noise - it only became more evident when 'Terror of the Nortons' opened his mouth and we got the crowd cheering.
So why wasn't it picked up earlier? How can one channel bleed into another? Is this down to equipment or an engineer not doing their job properly? Why was there no apology?
I say again 10 million pounds budget, mammoth publicity - only to be let down in the last link of the chain.
If I was the newly appointed BBC One Controller I would be asking a certain department 'What the hell are you doing with my channel?
If it's down to automation problems then the manufacturers and programmers should serioulsy be having backsides kicked, if it's human errror then don't put the trainee on a Saturday night shift!
What amazes me more than anything that with all the problems in presentation at the BBC recently - with such a major TV event happening - there was no safety blanket in place - we can blame individuals or equipment but also department managers who know the system is naff and technical problems have been too often, continue to let it happen.
Yes I know it's only Dr Who and yes I know it was only for a few minutes and the world hasn't ended - but after all the hype I just felt deflated by it so God knows how the cast and crew felt.
Shame really.
BF
FANTASTIC!!
i was never a fan of the show per say, but that was brillant
The 1st bit of decent saturday night tv since crime traveller
Bit of TV with imantation and fantasy at last ..rather than the usual reality tv shi..
12 more to come, i'll now have something to forward to during my working week
i was never a fan of the show per say, but that was brillant
The 1st bit of decent saturday night tv since crime traveller
Bit of TV with imantation and fantasy at last ..rather than the usual reality tv shi..
12 more to come, i'll now have something to forward to during my working week
JC
Sunday paper Reviews aren't very good. I particularly like this one from the Mirror. 
Have to agree. I thought it was a steaming pile of updated - yet still outdated- crap
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I can't imagine kids who've grown up on Men In Black, Buffy and Cat Deeley being scared by a talking underground blancmange. By far the crappiest were those faceless showroom dummies, although to be fair it was nice to see Adam Rickett back in work so soon.
Yeah, I know it was only the first episode. But the new Dr Who already has no place in primetime. It's basically a teatime kids show - a bit like My Parents Are Aliens, but not half as funny
Yeah, I know it was only the first episode. But the new Dr Who already has no place in primetime. It's basically a teatime kids show - a bit like My Parents Are Aliens, but not half as funny
Have to agree. I thought it was a steaming pile of updated - yet still outdated- crap
IN
Do shut up you dummy. Why are plebs like you allowed to post on here?
JCB posted:
Sunday paper Reviews aren't very good. I particularly like this one from the Mirror.
Have to agree. I thought it was a steaming pile of updated - yet still outdated- crap
Quote:
I can't imagine kids who've grown up on Men In Black, Buffy and Cat Deeley being scared by a talking underground blancmange. By far the crappiest were those faceless showroom dummies, although to be fair it was nice to see Adam Rickett back in work so soon.
Yeah, I know it was only the first episode. But the new Dr Who already has no place in primetime. It's basically a teatime kids show - a bit like My Parents Are Aliens, but not half as funny
Yeah, I know it was only the first episode. But the new Dr Who already has no place in primetime. It's basically a teatime kids show - a bit like My Parents Are Aliens, but not half as funny
Have to agree. I thought it was a steaming pile of updated - yet still outdated- crap
Do shut up you dummy. Why are plebs like you allowed to post on here?