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Johnny83
Little Info: Doctor Who is not on next week (24th May 2008) due to the Eurovision Song Contest, great! Rolling Eyes Sad
SP
Spencer
Johnny83 posted:
Little Info: Doctor Who is not on next week (24th May 2008) due to the Eurovision Song Contest, great! Rolling Eyes Sad


So instead, we'll be watching lots of grotesque characters in weird outfits making strange noises. Shouldn't be too different.
JO
Johnny83
Spencer For Hire posted:
Johnny83 posted:
Little Info: Doctor Who is not on next week (24th May 2008) due to the Eurovision Song Contest, great! Rolling Eyes Sad


So instead, we'll be watching lots of grotesque characters in weird outfits making strange noises. Shouldn't be too different.


Laughing True, wonder how drunk Terry will get this year Very Happy
JO
Johnny83
Well another good story this week, Graham Harper knows how to direct them don't he. I can't really fault this one to be honest & thing that Cathrine Tate has really settled into the series now.

9/10 Very Happy
LI
littlesmegger
Yeah it's rare that I personally like the comedic episodes of the show, but last nights really did make me laugh. Especially Donna going "No, don't tell me Noddy's real?!" and then the whole "Ginger Beer" sequence... 'How's Harvey Wallbanger one word!!!" Laughing
JO
Johnny83
littlesmegger posted:
Yeah it's rare that I personally like the comedic episodes of the show, but last nights really did make me laugh. Especially Donna going "No, don't tell me Noddy's real?!" and then the whole "Ginger Beer" sequence... 'How's Harvey Wallbanger one word!!!" Laughing


Yeah it was a good humourous episode.

The only thing is that as much as I like Tennant as the Doctor I think it'll be time, soon, for him to hand over to someone else. Probably after the three specials next year or by Series 5 the latest.

I know someone will argue "It ain't broke so why fix it?" but the point is that you don't want to get to the stage where it is too broken to be fixed. Troughton & Davison only starred in the roles for 3 years each and had virtually flawless runs, Tom did it for 7 and although most of his era was great some of it was absolute crap (Underworld, Creature From The Pit, Horns Of Nimon). Pertwee also started to suffer during his fifth year as well.

I'd rather Tennant went out on a high like Troughton & Davison rather than stray off near the end. Plus am I alone in thinking that we have kind of got to the point with Tennant where they can't do anything new for him. Of course he's great again this series, but do we want to get to the point where we're all thinking, haven't we had this before?
AM
amosc100
I beilieve that there is something BIG to come from the Doctor and that he is not alone (or virtually alone). The Shadows, from the makers of the Shadow Proclomations, which the Doctor keeps referring to, I think, as someone else stated, ARE the Timelords and the Doctor knows this but are keeping them safe from another Time war!

And the best Doctor to reveal this BIG secret id David Tenants!

But as in Sylvester's days when a new mystery surrounded the Doctor - he is more than a mere Timelord!!!!!
JO
Johnny83
amosc100 posted:
I beilieve that there is something BIG to come from the Doctor and that he is not alone (or virtually alone). The Shadows, from the makers of the Shadow Proclomations, which the Doctor keeps referring to, I think, as someone else stated, ARE the Timelords and the Doctor knows this but are keeping them safe from another Time war!

And the best Doctor to reveal this BIG secret id David Tenants!

But as in Sylvester's days when a new mystery surrounded the Doctor - he is more than a mere Timelord!!!!!


They do need to do something regarding the Timelords, I still think Romana could make a reapperance, I think the whole "last Timelord" thing has gone on a bit now. I can't honestly believe he was the only one (apart from the Master) to do a runner
JR
jrothwell97
I honestly don't see the link between the Shadow Proclamation and the Time Lords. As I understand it, the Shadow Proclomation is something like a charter drawn up by a UN equivalent (think the Geneva Convention/the Atlanta Convention on the Rights of the Child). It would certainly make sense, with the Doctor talking about addressing people under Clause 14 of the Shadow Proclamation.

Although I would like to see a return for the Time Lords... and perhaps for the Master...
CY
cylon6
Johnny83 posted:
Little Info: Doctor Who is not on next week (24th May 2008) due to the Eurovision Song Contest, great! Rolling Eyes Sad


But tune in on Saturday at 6.45pm for a special rest of series trailer. Also it has been confirmed that Steven Moffat will be taking over as head writer on Doctor Who from Russell T Davies.

The story just broke on Media Guardian:

Quote:
Moffat named Doctor Who supremo

Steven Moffat was today named lead writer and executive producer on hit BBC1 drama Doctor Who.

Moffat, who has written a number of episodes of the show - including the acclaimed Blink episode which won him the Bafta writer award at this year's TV awards - will replace Russell T Davies.

Davies, the key creative figure behind the Doctor Who revival in 2005, stands down next year.

The appointment makes Moffat Doctor Who's show runner - the key creative force behind the programme - on the fifth series, which will be broadcast on BBC1 in 2010.

As well as Blink, his previous work on Doctor Who includes The Girl in the Fireplace for Series Two, which earned him his second Hugo Award. His first was for the Series One two-parter The Empty Child

Davies said: "It's been a delight and an honour working with Steven, and I can't wait to see where his extraordinary imagination takes the Doctor. Best of all, I get to be a viewer again, watching on a Saturday night!"

Davies and Julie Gardner, the BBC Wales head of drama, who have worked on the fourth series of Doctor Who and are working on three specials for broadcast in 2009.

In 2009 BBC Wales, which makes Doctor Who, will also have a new head of drama when producer Piers Wenger takes over from Julie Gardner
DB
dbl
Good choice I think, he's done some great episodes.
ID
Inflatable Dartboard
amosc100 posted:
But as in Sylvester's days when a new mystery surrounded the Doctor - he is more than a mere Timelord!!!!!


Early 1990s Doctor Who novels expanded on that idea a bit.

I think the gist of it is something like...

A character know only as "The Other" was one of 3 Gallifreyans involved in giving Gallifreyans the power of time-travel (hence the race being renamed as "Time Lords") - the other two characters being Omega and Rassilon, IIRC.

At some point in Gallifreyan/Time Lord evolution, they must cease reproducing in the same way that humans do, for some reason, as something called "the Lungbarrow" comes along.

All Time Lords since then are "spun" from the "loom"-like Lungbarrow (obviously, it's spinning DNA and stuff, not wool!). Thus meaning that all Time Lords are "cousins" to each other.

Eventually, a Time Lord who is effectively a "reincarnation" of The Other (i.e. he's made up of nigh-on 100% of The Other's DNA, or something) gets spun into existence. This is who The Doctor is.

Susan "Foreman" is actually The Other's granddaughter, as the Doctor was "born" of Lungbarrow, and therefore can only possibly have "cousins". I think that Susan is also a member of the very final generation of Gallifreyans/Time Lords to be "born" is the traditional (pre-Lungbarrow) sense.

But, being as The Doctor is effectively "the same person" as The Other, and somehow Susan and he came to know this, they formed a grandfater/granddaughter bond anyway.

Or something like that.

I'll stand-by to be corrected...

And it all depend whether you count such novels as "canon" or not.

By main point was to show that what Sylvester McCoy-era script editor Andrew Cartmel started, has been taken further in books, despite not getting very far by the time the original TV series was dropped in 1989.

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