Doctor Who - Discussions on Season 5 onwards

Thanks dbl & BBC Five, managed to time record it this time

like the way the brigader takes his gasmask off before the air clears

the doctor's daughter looks a bit young to have a grandaughter

well so does the current doctor. oh and wouldn't it be her daughter?

The gas was only lethal at a concentration of 80%.

Besides, why would you nitpick at what was an extraordinarily brilliant piece of telly?

Absolutely.

Amongst other points:

-- Rose's brief appearance on screen
-- the Donna Nobis line - been waiting for that to come up
-- 'Are you my mummy?' from the Doctor underneath his gas mask

- the phenomenal orchestrated score
- the stunning visual effects
- the final scene with Donna and her grandfather that, I confess, made me shed a tear

It's great to see work of this calibre (from the crafts to the talent and the storytelling) alive and well in the UK.

I wanted to comment on the incredibly high standard that so far has dominated this years season of Dr Who. tonights episode that featured the "doctor's daughter" although not in the physical sense that people were expecting but merely as a bi-product of a tissue sample, was excellent. Exemplary orchestrations and brilliant special effects are making this series must see television. Seems a shame that it costs a fair whack to make yet it is shown during the warmest months when fewer people will be watching. All in all though, I love this programme!

If you've not seen last night's episode yet, don't read my post, as it'll spoil it

Aah, so she wasn't the Doctor's "daughter" in the normal sense of the word, but a "clone" of sorts, grown instantly from a tissue sample of the Doctor. Interesting.

Now that I think about it...

Ever since 2005, we've been told that the entire Time Lord race died in the Time War, with probably only a negligable number of exceptions (only the Doctor and the resurrected-Master survived, as far as we know at the mo). It would have rather further eroded that idea, if any genuine offspring of the Doctor were still alive somewhere.

So, it was probably rather stupid and naive of me to take the title "The Doctor's Daughter" too literally. I should have realised by now that the programme tends to always be a bit more backhanded, than to say something so straightforward in a story title.

Interesting that she survived being shot, Captain Jack-style, but didn't actually regenerate (given the unnatural origins of her very existence, it's debatable exactly what Time Lord traits she would be able to have, beyond the only confirmed-on-screen fact that she has 2 hearts). I didn't understand how Martha could be so sure that "Jenny" wouldn't have the ability to regenerate?

The ending was very "not another potential spin-off series, please?", wasn't it? Or maybe even a potential way of carrying on if/when the actor to play the 13th Doctor decides to quit...

Nice emotional drama, the fact that having this new "daughter" around made the Doctor sad for the genuine descendants (which would include Susan) that have been lost.

Given that it turned out that the Daleks weren't even remotely "wiped out" by the Time War, but were rather just "hidden" I seriously doubt that the Time Lords really perished either. This "Shadow Proclomation" stuff that seems to be building could be something to do with the Time Lords, who are similarly "hidden" somewhere? As in "hiding in shadows " or something. Just a thought.

We'll see.

I'm hoping that they're merely leaving the loose end so that she can be brought back in a future episode/series, rather than as a spin-off. I doubt she'll necessarily re-appear this series as they seem to be building up to something which involved Rose.

Interesting watching Confidential to find out that Georgia (the actress playing the Doctor's daughter) is Peter Davison's daughter.

I've always thought the line "they're all dead" was a bit of a cop out TBH. For a start the Master survived, then there's Romana, who although in the "Big Finish Audios" returned to Gallifrey, as far as the TV series is concerned, is still in E-Space. Then there's the Rani who was expelled from Gallifrey by the Timelords when we first meet her in The Mark Of The Rani & also The Meddling Monk (which is calling out for Timothy Spall to play him in the new series) who was last seen during Hartnell's time

I don't honestly believe that all Timelords died, surely if some of the Daleks managed to escape some of the Timelords did, considering they expelled the nutters they produced (The Meddlign Monk, Morbius, Omega, The Master & The Rani) surel there was a few more cowards on Gallifrey who done a runner when the war was started or was getting bad.

I think the only way Gallifrey will come back is when someone takes over from RTD, that will also probably be the only way we get rid of this whole "Doctor Who = Rose" thing as well.

I see Steven Moffat has won a BAFTA for the Blink episode.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/news/latest/080512_news_01

Well deserved IMHO