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Charlie Wells Moderator
Inflatable Dartboard posted:
Charlie Wells posted:
Inflatable Dartboard posted:
All of which begs the question... Of all the names in the universe, why the hell I would love to ask RTD how he can explain/justify the name.

RTD explained it in tonight Confidential, which hopefully should be available via the iPlayer (which will probably make more sense than my attempts). The idea started off with the graffiti on the tardis, which originally was going to be 'Bad Dog' (if I recall rightly). Somehow it changed to Bad Wolf and was used as a linking theme. The 'Bad Wolf' appears to be a sort of calling card of Rose which after absorbing the time vortex she was able to scatter through time and space.


I saw Confidential. That explains RTD's real-life choice. But it does not explain within the fiction of the narrative, the unlikely occurence of the imagination-free Daleks coming up with such a name as "Bad Wolf". RTD has tried to gloss over the lack of narrative explanation, by emphasising his real-life reasoning. I am not someone who can be so easily deceived!

The Doctor said in Blink...
"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect... but actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly.... timey-wimey.... stuff."
...so I guess that the words were present due to Rose (later) absorbing the time vortex and the words subsequently got placed there by her. It sounds confusing, but then Blink does when trying to think about the time order which things occurred in.
BE
besty
dbl posted:
It was an excellent episode considering this was the 'budget' one.


Last week's was the "budget" episode - only 2 sets and no CGI monsters. This week's was the "doctor-lite" episode which was filmed back to back with the "budget" one. Usually they are one and the same but not always as this year shows.
FA
fanoftv
besty posted:
dbl posted:
It was an excellent episode considering this was the 'budget' one.


Last week's was the "budget" episode - only 2 sets and no CGI monsters. This week's was the "doctor-lite" episode which was filmed back to back with the "budget" one. Usually they are one and the same but not always as this year shows.


So tonights episode is the result of the rumour that Donna, Rose and Martha would be working together to save the doctor?
ST
stevek
Brilliant episode, 'Sliding Doors' meets It's A Wondeful Life'

Interesting that Martha would not have met the doctor had it not been for Donna and neither would the Master has resurfaced.

one 'error' though, Rose mentioned the Adipose, thought that only happened in London which had been destroyed.
DB
dbl
besty posted:
dbl posted:
It was an excellent episode considering this was the 'budget' one.


Last week's was the "budget" episode - only 2 sets and no CGI monsters. This week's was the "doctor-lite" episode which was filmed back to back with the "budget" one. Usually they are one and the same but not always as this year shows.

Thats what I thought but in DWC, RTD said that he wanted to explode the Tardis but the production team said to him that it was the budget episode.
PE
Pete Founding member
stevek posted:
one 'error' though, Rose mentioned the Adipose, thought that only happened in London which had been destroyed.


it happened in america. that's why america couldn't give the massive loan as 60m people turned into fat.

Also, remember (was it lukey) moaning about the throwaway comment in the adipose episode where the nanny said the planet was destroyed but it was just politics. watching confidential shows that is an important teaser comment as so many planets are vanishing.

isn't it nice to follow a show as it goes instead of getting all overexcited with silly theories and "omg, rose it must be davros" stupidity? oh you prefer that you say Wicko? Shame.
NG
noggin Founding member
stevek posted:

one 'error' though, Rose mentioned the Adipose, thought that only happened in London which had been destroyed.


But if London had been destroyed the Adipose would presumably have gone somewhere else?
ID
Inflatable Dartboard
Turn Left was absolutely brilliant.

On the basis of The Runaway Bride alone, I had serious doubts about Catherine Tate's "serious acting" credentials. Thankfully, it seems that she must've gone to acting school since then! So, my misgivings quickly crumbled, from Partners In Crime onwards.

But, Turn Left really really impressed me. Catherine, I'm sorry I ever doubted you.

I was rather underwhelmed by the first "Doctor-lite" episode (Love & Monsters), as I thought its tone was rather too frivolous. But Blink and Turn Left have shown that simply being Doctor-lite is not a problem in itself, as long as the story, tone, etc are good.

The key difference this time was that, although the Doctor barely featured, the other current regular - Donna - was of course the star. Love & Monsters and Blink were not only Doctor-lite, but also Rose-lite and Martha-lite respectively. I think heavily removing BOTH of the current regulars is not such a great move, but removing just one or the other means that you kind of don't notice/care.

I prefer the idea that the "Doctor-light" episode can be used to showcase the companion, rather than sidelining them along with the Doctor. I also like the way that this is counterbalanced with a "companion-lite" episode.

After all, why should it be the case that once a companion has joined the Doctor, (s)he stays utterly "glued to his side" until whenever (s)he finally leaves forever? There's no reason why it necessarily has to be such an "all or nothing" companionship. So, I love the idea that the doctor might temporarily leave his current companion behind somewhere, to go on a little lone adventure of his own.

It's a shame that the Classic Series never really exploited such possibilities.
JO
Joe
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On the basis of The Runaway Bride alone, I had serious doubts about Catherine Tate's "serious acting" credentials. Thankfully, it seems that she must've gone to acting school since then! So, my misgivings quickly crumbled, from Partners In Crime onwards.

I was going to mention that. Do those that thought she would be rubbish still think that? I don't believe I ever said she would be rubbish, but I certainly thought she might be. But I'm really pleased with her performances, as they've always been excellent.
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Neil__
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MH
miss hellfire
sorry to invade this thread, anyone else think its a huge coincidence that ufos have been seen over cardiff since Dr who has been filmed there. Naughty Daleks chasing police helicopters.
JR
jrothwell97
miss hellfire posted:
sorry to invade this thread, anyone else think its a huge coincidence that ufos have been seen over cardiff since Dr who has been filmed there. Naughty Daleks chasing police helicopters.


Does it not occur to you that they were seen near Cardiff? Cardiff Airport, in fact?

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