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JO
Joe
Well no, as he's still got three more specials
CO
Corin
Turn Left shows how well RTD applies the mantra of "reduce, re-use and recycle" to padding out the story for his script..
DB
dbl
Corin posted:
Turn Left shows how well RTD applies the mantra of "reduce, re-use and recycle" to padding out the story for his script..

It was an excellent episode considering this was the 'budget' one.
CW
Charlie Wells Moderator
I liked the ending where BAD WOLF suddenly appeared everywhere, including on the Tardis. Does anyone know whether the Chinese writing at the beginning said Bad Wolf?

I think the 'Leeds' street was previously used for the last episode of series two during the year that never was. The lighting for the Tardis was quite interesting, for both the 'dead' tardis and at the end when flashing red.
CO
Corin
dbl posted:
It was an excellent episode considering this was the 'budget' one.

Excellent in the sense of Bernard Cribbins' cringeworthy character/performance?

Would his character not be more suited to Last of the Summer Wine instead?
JO
Joe
Corin posted:
dbl posted:
It was an excellent episode considering this was the 'budget' one.

Excellent in the sense of Bernard Cribbins' cringeworthy character/performance?

Would his character not be more suited to Last of the Summer Wine instead?

Because he's elderly? Yes. I'm sure the Doctor should also be working in a GP, and a ginger like Donna should be in a freak show.
JO
Johnny83
Corin posted:
dbl posted:
It was an excellent episode considering this was the 'budget' one.

Excellent in the sense of Bernard Cribbins' cringeworthy character/performance?

Would his character not be more suited to Last of the Summer Wine instead?


YOU WHAT?!?!?!?

You are, of course, entitled to your own opinion but it's absolute crap. Bernard Cribbins is superb in this, more Wilf less Daleks IMO
DB
dbl
Corin posted:
dbl posted:
It was an excellent episode considering this was the 'budget' one.

Excellent in the sense of Bernard Cribbins' cringeworthy character/performance?

Would his character not be more suited to Last of the Summer Wine instead?

Should have gone to Specsavers?
ID
Inflatable Dartboard
Charlie Wells posted:
I liked the ending where BAD WOLF suddenly appeared everywhere, including on the Tardis. Does anyone know whether the Chinese writing at the beginning said Bad Wolf?


There's never been any proper explanation why the two-word phrase should be "Bad Wolf". Although Rose scattered the name through time at the end of series 1 to send a message to herself, she clearly didn't choose the phrase herself. It was the name of the Dalek's TV company. If the Dalek's TV company had been called "Green Geoffrey", then Rose would've scattered those two words through time.

All of which begs the question... Of all the names in the universe, why the hell would the Dalek's choose "Bad Wolf" as the name of their TV company? Surely the last thing a "baddie" would want to do is openly admit that they are baddies, so the inclusion of the word "Bad" is odd. And the overall name doesn't seem a likely choice of name for any kind of company (not necessarily a TV one). Especially when you consider that Daleks, by their very nature, don't have "imagination" - therefore they'd surely come up with only something very plain and vanilla, like "Universal Broadcasting". Why has nobody else ever questioned: "Why Bad Wolf ?"

I would love to ask RTD how he can explain/justify the name.
CW
Charlie Wells Moderator
Inflatable Dartboard posted:
All of which begs the question... Of all the names in the universe, why the hell I would love to ask RTD how he can explain/justify the name.

RTD explained it in tonight Confidential, which hopefully should be available via the iPlayer (which will probably make more sense than my attempts). The idea started off with the graffiti on the tardis, which originally was going to be 'Bad Dog' (if I recall rightly). Somehow it changed to Bad Wolf and was used as a linking theme. The 'Bad Wolf' appears to be a sort of calling card of Rose which after absorbing the time vortex she was able to scatter through time and space.
ID
Inflatable Dartboard
Charlie Wells posted:
Inflatable Dartboard posted:
All of which begs the question... Of all the names in the universe, why the hell I would love to ask RTD how he can explain/justify the name.

RTD explained it in tonight Confidential, which hopefully should be available via the iPlayer (which will probably make more sense than my attempts). The idea started off with the graffiti on the tardis, which originally was going to be 'Bad Dog' (if I recall rightly). Somehow it changed to Bad Wolf and was used as a linking theme. The 'Bad Wolf' appears to be a sort of calling card of Rose which after absorbing the time vortex she was able to scatter through time and space.


I saw Confidential. That explains RTD's real-life choice. But it does not explain within the fiction of the narrative, the unlikely occurence of the imagination-free Daleks coming up with such a name as "Bad Wolf". RTD has tried to gloss over the lack of narrative explanation, by emphasising his real-life reasoning. I am not someone who can be so easily deceived!
JO
Johnny83
Inflatable Dartboard posted:
Charlie Wells posted:
Inflatable Dartboard posted:
All of which begs the question... Of all the names in the universe, why the hell I would love to ask RTD how he can explain/justify the name.

RTD explained it in tonight Confidential, which hopefully should be available via the iPlayer (which will probably make more sense than my attempts). The idea started off with the graffiti on the tardis, which originally was going to be 'Bad Dog' (if I recall rightly). Somehow it changed to Bad Wolf and was used as a linking theme. The 'Bad Wolf' appears to be a sort of calling card of Rose which after absorbing the time vortex she was able to scatter through time and space.


I saw Confidential. That explains RTD's real-life choice. But it does not explain within the fiction of the narrative, the unlikely occurence of the imagination-free Daleks coming up with such a name as "Bad Wolf". RTD has tried to gloss over the lack of narrative explanation, by emphasising his real-life reasoning. I am not someone who can be so easily deceived!


Perhaps Dave Ross chose it? It'll all (probably) be explained next week.

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