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Will Disney close all the UK linear kids channels?

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RC
RegularCapital Central (West) Midlands Today
rdd posted:

Sky need to do something - the value of them having a separate Kids pack (a decision which is relatively recent) is massively diminished without Disney. In terms of linear channels it’s now really just Nickelodeon and the two Warner channels. Mind you, it’s parents that pay and they may not follow all the channel comings and goings. The thing about Disney+ is that it’s not just Disney Channel content, it’s carefully structured to have something for both parents and kids (The Simpsons archive will be worth the price of admission for many older viewers alone).


Removing 3 channels with very low shares isn't that big a deal. The Kids Pass on NOW TV is only £1 cheaper, and I can't see Sky and Virgin Media reducing the Kids Pack by £1 especially when they already offer more extra 'channels'.

It would be a bigger deal if the Viacom or Turner kids channels were removed as they are more popular:

Disney Channel 0.7%
Disney Junior 0.9%
Disney XD 0.3%

Nickelodeon 0.11%
Nick Jr 0.26%
Nick Jr Too 0.16%
Nicktoons 0.15%

Cartoon Network 0.21%
Boomerang 0.08%
Cartoonito 0.09%


Those percentages suggest Disney have the higher shares, not lower.


Last time I checked the BARB stats, Disney XD had the same viewing share as or half of Boomerang+1.
JA
JAS84 Yorkshire Look North (E.Yorks & Lincs)

Removing 3 channels with very low shares isn't that big a deal. The Kids Pass on NOW TV is only £1 cheaper, and I can't see Sky and Virgin Media reducing the Kids Pack by £1 especially when they already offer more extra 'channels'.

It would be a bigger deal if the Viacom or Turner kids channels were removed as they are more popular:

Disney Channel 0.7%
Disney Junior 0.9%
Disney XD 0.3%

Nickelodeon 0.11%
Nick Jr 0.26%
Nick Jr Too 0.16%
Nicktoons 0.15%

Cartoon Network 0.21%
Boomerang 0.08%
Cartoonito 0.09%

Where did you get those percentages from? The numbers don't support what you're saying - XD's 0.3 is more than Nick Jr's 0.26, by 0.04. So I'd like to double check the figures.
TT
TellyTime
rdd posted:

Sky need to do something - the value of them having a separate Kids pack (a decision which is relatively recent) is massively diminished without Disney. In terms of linear channels it’s now really just Nickelodeon and the two Warner channels. Mind you, it’s parents that pay and they may not follow all the channel comings and goings. The thing about Disney+ is that it’s not just Disney Channel content, it’s carefully structured to have something for both parents and kids (The Simpsons archive will be worth the price of admission for many older viewers alone).


Removing 3 channels with very low shares isn't that big a deal. The Kids Pass on NOW TV is only £1 cheaper, and I can't see Sky and Virgin Media reducing the Kids Pack by £1 especially when they already offer more extra 'channels'.

It would be a bigger deal if the Viacom or Turner kids channels were removed as they are more popular:

Disney Channel 0.7%
Disney Junior 0.9%
Disney XD 0.3%

Nickelodeon 0.11%
Nick Jr 0.26%
Nick Jr Too 0.16%
Nicktoons 0.15%

Cartoon Network 0.21%
Boomerang 0.08%
Cartoonito 0.09%


Those percentages suggest Disney have the higher shares, not lower.


Excuse the typos, edited the post... Disney's shares are much lower!

Disney Channel 0.07%
Disney Junior 0.09%
Disney XD 0.03%
Last edited by TellyTime on 26 June 2020 3:58pm
ZE
zeebre12

Removing 3 channels with very low shares isn't that big a deal. The Kids Pass on NOW TV is only £1 cheaper, and I can't see Sky and Virgin Media reducing the Kids Pack by £1 especially when they already offer more extra 'channels'.

It would be a bigger deal if the Viacom or Turner kids channels were removed as they are more popular:

Disney Channel 0.7%
Disney Junior 0.9%
Disney XD 0.3%

Nickelodeon 0.11%
Nick Jr 0.26%
Nick Jr Too 0.16%
Nicktoons 0.15%

Cartoon Network 0.21%
Boomerang 0.08%
Cartoonito 0.09%


Those percentages suggest Disney have the higher shares, not lower.


Excuse the typos, edited the post... Disney's shares are much lower!

Disney Channel 0.07%
Disney Junior 0.09%
Disney XD 0.03%

I thought Disney Junior was always one of the better performing pay TV kids channels?
TT
TellyTime

Those percentages suggest Disney have the higher shares, not lower.


Excuse the typos, edited the post... Disney's shares are much lower!

Disney Channel 0.07%
Disney Junior 0.09%
Disney XD 0.03%

I thought Disney Junior was always one of the better performing pay TV kids channels?


The popularity of Disney's channels has been falling for a long time...



BS
BiggieSMLZ Granada North West Today


The popularity of Disney's channels has been falling for a long time...





Ouch. Sad
Ahh, the joys of TV.
ME
mediachris Anglia (East) Look East

Excuse the typos, edited the post... Disney's shares are much lower!

Disney Channel 0.07%
Disney Junior 0.09%
Disney XD 0.03%

I thought Disney Junior was always one of the better performing pay TV kids channels?


The popularity of Disney's channels has been falling for a long time...





Not surprising really when the main Disney Channel has nothing to it anymore, just the same shows on a loop 24 hours a day. I think the biggest killer for Disney was when they launched Cinemagic, closing Toons and then replacing Cinemagic with Sky Movies Disney yet not finding another outlet or space on the Disney Channel schedule for the cartoons they dumped.

It still annoys me that UK broadcasters don't seem to want to show any archive material on their channels anymore, even Boomerang is a shadow of it's former self.
GH
Ghost Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
It still annoys me that UK broadcasters don't seem to want to show any archive material on their channels anymore, even Boomerang is a shadow of it's former self.

Nicktoons still shows Avatar: The Last Airbender (though it’s only on at midnight) and they’ve recently shown the last 2 seasons of Rugrats. The main Nick channel also still shows some of their old original shows (e.g. Renford Rejects, House of Anubis) overnight.
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NJ
Neil Jones Founding member Central (West) Midlands Today
Ghost posted:
It still annoys me that UK broadcasters don't seem to want to show any archive material on their channels anymore, even Boomerang is a shadow of it's former self.

Nicktoons still shows Avatar: The Last Airbender (though it’s only on at midnight) and they’ve recently shown the last 2 seasons of Rugrats. The main Nick channel also still shows some of their old original shows (e.g. Renford Rejects, House of Anubis) overnight.


One of the FAQs that nick.co.uk used to have (and still does having just gone to look at it) was regarding why they don't show much from the back catalogue. The response to this was that the newer material was apparently what viewers wanted.

Renford Rejects has never really been off Nick UK, although it stopped production about 20 years ago.
House of Anubis is not a Nickelodeon UK production (it was filmed in the UK in Liverpool, but it was actually made for the American Nickelodeon network).
JO
Josh
Besides, House of Anubis was actually based on the Dutch show Het Huis Anubis so it's not an original concept as such.
Fan of the media industry, from the UK.
JO
Jonwo (previously Jonwo87)

It still annoys me that UK broadcasters don't seem to want to show any archive material on their channels anymore, even Boomerang is a shadow of it's former self.


Surely if newer content rates higher than older content then it makes sense for channels to favour the newer content?
RC
RegularCapital Central (West) Midlands Today
Ghost posted:
It still annoys me that UK broadcasters don't seem to want to show any archive material on their channels anymore, even Boomerang is a shadow of it's former self.

Nicktoons still shows Avatar: The Last Airbender (though it’s only on at midnight) and they’ve recently shown the last 2 seasons of Rugrats. The main Nick channel also still shows some of their old original shows (e.g. Renford Rejects, House of Anubis) overnight.


One of the FAQs that nick.co.uk used to have (and still does having just gone to look at it) was regarding why they don't show much from the back catalogue. The response to this was that the newer material was apparently what viewers wanted.

Renford Rejects has never really been off Nick UK, although it stopped production about 20 years ago.
House of Anubis is not a Nickelodeon UK production (it was filmed in the UK in Liverpool, but it was actually made for the American Nickelodeon network).


I believe Renford Rejects and House of Anubis never really left Nick's schedule is because they're used to meet EU Audiovisual Media Services Directive quotas, where a percentage of programming must be of European origin. Newer shows It's Pony, Horrid Henry, Winx Club etc. also help reach the target. I guess Nick is really proud of Renford Rejects (it was Nick UK's first production, so I'm not surprised).

Also Renford Rejects still has the old 1990's Nickelodeon subtitles icon at the start of each episode, the graphic must of been recorded with the show.
Last edited by RegularCapital on 28 June 2020 9:23pm - 2 times in total

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