Disney Cartoons on Channel 5: Shown 4:3 pillarboxed to 16:9 - Page 2

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noggin Founding member 31 January 2010 8:28pm

nwtv2003 posted:

Sky Sports HD channels are the odd ones out - they stretch 4:3 SD content rather than pillarboxing - presumably because their sports viewers are expected to complain more about black bars than wrong-shape pictures - and they assume they've been watching the wrong shape in SD for years?

Oddly ESPN pillarbox, even on the SD version they do, ESPN America does too, but Classic doesn't, probably due to the fact most of what they show is 4:3.

Can't remember the last time there was a pillarboxed UEFA Champions League on ITV, alot of people kicked off about that for some reason.

Suspect ESPN Classic is SD-only, and pre-dates the other ESPN channels? It was therefore, probably, set-up to cope with both 4:3 and 16:9 - or just 4:3 - content?

I think the new ESPN channels set-up post-Setanta were probably set-up very quickly - and are mainly there for 16:9 coverage, with 4:3 stuff less-common and deemed less-important. They may even just be running the HD-channel and downconverting permanently to 16:9 SD for the SD channel without bothering with an ARC/AFD channel?

NW

nwtv2003 31 January 2010 8:48pm

noggin posted:

Suspect ESPN Classic is SD-only, and pre-dates the other ESPN channels? It was therefore, probably, set-up to cope with both 4:3 and 16:9 - or just 4:3 - content?

I think the new ESPN channels set-up post-Setanta were probably set-up very quickly - and are mainly there for 16:9 coverage, with 4:3 stuff less-common and deemed less-important. They may even just be running the HD-channel and downconverting permanently to 16:9 SD for the SD channel without bothering with an ARC/AFD channel?

ESPN Classic shows both 4:3 and 16:9, it's always 16:9 for adverts and continuity. You're probably right about normal ESPN, but they do they show a fair amount of output from the US, which is pillarboxed.

NJ

Neil Jones Founding member 31 January 2010 9:41pm

davidlees posted:

623058 posted:

The swines there edited the cartoon Down!

I'm not familiar with 'Mickey Mouse Lonesome Ghost' but I did see a wipe (between the scene with Mickey Mouse on the phone and arriving at the haunted house) which looked a little too modern. What was cut out?

I didn't see this transmission so I don't know if this was the actual cut but apparently there's a segment in the original cartoon Mickey shoots a gun but the ghost plugs the barrels and the gun explodes. Considering this cartoon's been shown at some point on Disney Channel somewhere said scene was almost certain to be cut from that transmission.

But herein lies the other issue: Cartoons such as Mickey Mouse, Bugs Bunny and Tom & Jerry were never originally made for viewing by children. They were only ever meant to be original shorts before the main feature in the cinema in the 1930s, 40s and 50s. Therefore they will contain scenes that are unsuitable for transmission in certain time slots. Quite often the edits are not made by the broadcaster but by the production company.

MGM turned Tom Cat's original black owner white at one point with an Irish accent. When Turner bought the rights to Tom & Jerry this was reversed, re-dubbed and is about as close to the original as you can get. Unfortunately they then went and chopped out all the blackface gags...

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A former member 31 January 2010 10:01pm

Does this mean most of the original masters of Tom and jerry are not around?

IS

Inspector Sands 31 January 2010 11:26pm

623058 posted:

Does this mean most of the original masters of Tom and jerry are not around?

I'd hope the original masters are locked away somewhere very safe!

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A former member 31 January 2010 11:31pm

Inspector Sands posted:

623058 posted: