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Digital Switchover - Chaos Or Calm?

(June 2006)

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JA
james2001 Founding member
Conan-san posted:
james2001 posted:
That's why there's millions of people with expensive widescreen TVs with the digibox set to 4:3 and hooked up via RF. I won't be suprised to find that some people already think they are watching digital when they really aren't.
It's possible to conect digiboxes with RF? I thought it was only possible to use RGB/Scart

Some have RF Out
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
james2001 posted:
Conan-san posted:
james2001 posted:
That's why there's millions of people with expensive widescreen TVs with the digibox set to 4:3 and hooked up via RF. I won't be suprised to find that some people already think they are watching digital when they really aren't.
It's possible to conect digiboxes with RF? I thought it was only possible to use RGB/Scart

Some have RF Out


I'd have thought the majority of boxes have RF Out - after all they've got to have an input RF socket for the aerial, so it only makes sense to include an RF Out socket too.

The issue about widescreen TVs is common though - the number of people who watch what they consider to be "widescreen" actually turns out to be squashyvision or stretchyvision. There's nothing more irritating to watch than a picture that makes people look like they have rugby shaped heads.
JA
james2001 Founding member
It's worse when it's the 4:3 cut-out in stretchyvision. Then, you're not even getting the extra picture at the sides- which is the whole point of widescreen. I'm suprised , with all these promos enticing people to switch to digital, that they haven't made one about setting their widescreen TVs up properly, seeing as it seems to be such a common occurance. I've been in several pubs with expensive widescreen plasmas. I've only seen one that actually had the digital box set to 16:9.

Also, my sister had SKY installed, my cousin NTL, the installers of both left the box in 4:3 & composite, so even they don't have a clue. Though the one who replaced our broken NTl box managed to do it properly (though when we first had NTL Digital installed in 2001, they only hooked it up via RF)
TO
tommyw
I think that just goes to show what a minefield it is finding a decent TV installer - which will obviously ad to the switchover nightmare.
It took me, and im not plucking this number from the air, FIVE different attempts untill I found an installation company with the right ammount of technical expertise, customer service and a "realistic" attitude towards price.
WO
Woody_streatham
Neil Jones posted:
james2001 posted:
Conan-san posted:
james2001 posted:
That's why there's millions of people with expensive widescreen TVs with the digibox set to 4:3 and hooked up via RF. I won't be suprised to find that some people already think they are watching digital when they really aren't.
It's possible to conect digiboxes with RF? I thought it was only possible to use RGB/Scart

Some have RF Out


I'd have thought the majority of boxes have RF Out - after all they've got to have an input RF socket for the aerial, so it only makes sense to include an RF Out socket too.

The issue about widescreen TVs is common though - the number of people who watch what they consider to be "widescreen" actually turns out to be squashyvision or stretchyvision. There's nothing more irritating to watch than a picture that makes people look like they have rugby shaped heads.


I must admit that even me who considers themselves quite techy minded, didn't realise that you had to set the Sky box to 16:9. I bought my first widescreen TV last year and watched it for months with the Sky box set to 4:3 and just assumed that was how it was supposed to look.

I now wonder how much I missed on the first season of Lost knowing that I was missing huge chunks either side? Maybe it's not mysterious as I think and I have just missed bits that were chopped off and all has been explained!
TO
tommyw
Ha! An awful lot of the telly Ive watched of late would make more sense with an extra 25%! Or maybe 25% less.

For anyone who is in need of digital TV help, I'd love to list the four companies I had truly awful dealings with before i found a firm who actually knew what they were on about - but I fear legal proceedings may ensue! So lets just say that after being nearly driven to insanity I stummbled across www.dastv.co.uk and had was saved!! Its a digital jungle out there!
JA
james2001 Founding member
tommyw posted:
I stummbled across www.dastv.co.uk and had was saved!! Its a digital jungle out there!


How a company based here in Mansfield can be decent is beyond me.......
R2
r2ro
Woody_streatham posted:
Neil Jones posted:
james2001 posted:
Conan-san posted:
james2001 posted:
That's why there's millions of people with expensive widescreen TVs with the digibox set to 4:3 and hooked up via RF. I won't be suprised to find that some people already think they are watching digital when they really aren't.
It's possible to conect digiboxes with RF? I thought it was only possible to use RGB/Scart

Some have RF Out


I'd have thought the majority of boxes have RF Out - after all they've got to have an input RF socket for the aerial, so it only makes sense to include an RF Out socket too.

The issue about widescreen TVs is common though - the number of people who watch what they consider to be "widescreen" actually turns out to be squashyvision or stretchyvision. There's nothing more irritating to watch than a picture that makes people look like they have rugby shaped heads.


I must admit that even me who considers themselves quite techy minded, didn't realise that you had to set the Sky box to 16:9. I bought my first widescreen TV last year and watched it for months with the Sky box set to 4:3 and just assumed that was how it was supposed to look.

I now wonder how much I missed on the first season of Lost knowing that I was missing huge chunks either side? Maybe it's not mysterious as I think and I have just missed bits that were chopped off and all has been explained!


Whilst we are on the topic of incorrect aspect ratios with televisions and digital I have a query which perhaps someone may help me with.

There is a difference between my analogue signal and my digital signal from Sky, which I'm sure shouldn't be happening.
I have a widescreen television, my Sky box is set to 16:9 but the analogue appears to be 4:3 that has been stretched at the sides to fit the screen as the pictures below (taken a while back) show.
http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/analogue_1_copy1.jpghttp://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/digital_1_copy1.jpg
http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/analogue_2_copy1.jpghttp://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/digital_2_copy1.jpg
JA
james2001 Founding member
Analogue doesn't broadcast in widescreen..........
WH
Whataday Founding member
I think most of the country is waiting for the free digital receivers which will no doubt be handed out when the switchover goes belly up!

In fact, I think most people are expecting free equipment.
TO
tommyw
I think you're probably right - there's no such thing as a free lunch tho is there!

By the way, I'm from Dudley so to me Mansfield is posh!
JH
Jonathan H
r2ro posted:
There is a difference between my analogue signal and my digital signal from Sky, which I'm sure shouldn't be happening.
I have a widescreen television, my Sky box is set to 16:9 but the analogue appears to be 4:3 that has been stretched at the sides to fit the screen as the pictures below (taken a while back) show.
http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/analogue_1_copy1.jpghttp://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/digital_1_copy1.jpg
http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/analogue_2_copy1.jpghttp://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/digital_2_copy1.jpg


You have your set top box set to widescreen, but it would appear that your television is set manually to display only 16:9 pictures. Analogue off-air doesn't transmit in FHA so you need to set your television to switch aspect ratios as required by the demands of the picture. This is useful anyway since not all programmes on digital platforms are widescreen anyway.

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