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RU
russnet Founding member
RJH Glover posted:
From tomorrow the BBC2 analogue signal from the Selkirk transmitter will be switched off. This will be followed by the remaning four analogue channels being switched off on 20th November.


There was a reporter at the Selkirk transmitter just on News 24 and they had a tv in the background with News 24 on and the delay was around 7 seconds from whatever she was doing to appear on the tv, so much was the delay that the newsreader (can't remember his name top of my head but he used to do the anchoring on Sky News) told the reporter to stand in front of the tv screen and wave and see how long it took for it to appear!
NW
nwtv2003
I think you mean Simon McCoy, Russ.
RU
russnet Founding member
nwtv2003 posted:
I think you mean Simon McCoy, Russ.


That's the one, thanks. I tried to do my research on the BBC News website but when they have Dermot Murnaghan and Natasha Kaplinsky still doing breakfast, I had no chance! (as found here )
MA
Markymark
Inspector Sands posted:
nwtv2003 posted:

I understand it's going to start in the Border region pretty soon-ish, so it'll be interesting to see how it goes when one region goes fully Digital.


About 8 hours ago in fact:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/south_of_scotland/7711531.stm

The Windermere area has already switched, but this is the first main transmitter


Whitehaven actually , (nowhere near as nice !)
AJ
ajd72
Er, actually it quite nice here in Whitehaven, thankyou.

It was such a huge build up here prior to the event and then a bit if an anticlimax when it happened.

Now it seems strange to think other people are still waiting to switchover Smile
RE
Revitt
Is it going to be the case for every transmitter that switches that BBC2 goes first and the others not for a month later? If so, what the hell for? Why not do it all at once, and why the rush to get rid of BBC2?
AM
amosc100
Revitt posted:
Is it going to be the case for every transmitter that switches that BBC2 goes first and the others not for a month later? If so, what the hell for? Why not do it all at once, and why the rush to get rid of BBC2?


Possibly BBC are using historical reasons to switch BBC2 first - it was the first station to transmit in the number of lines, the channel to transmit in colour and now the first channel to lose analogue signal in each region!
IS
Inspector Sands
Markymark posted:

Whitehaven actually , (nowhere near as nice !)


Whitehaven, Windermere, Workington... always get them confused!

Whitehaven's ok.... apart from the nuclear power station down the road
RT
rtl70
amosc100 posted:
Revitt posted:
Is it going to be the case for every transmitter that switches that BBC2 goes first and the others not for a month later? If so, what the hell for? Why not do it all at once, and why the rush to get rid of BBC2?


Possibly BBC are using historical reasons to switch BBC2 first - it was the first station to transmit in the number of lines, the channel to transmit in colour and now the first channel to lose analogue signal in each region!


BBC2 goes to allow a temporary multiplex to broadcast (a mixture of channels) on that frequency on the relays which won't have been broadcasting Freeview (only main transmitters broadcast Freeview before switchover). This allows a month for final testing and checks and configuration before the other analogue channels are switched off and the multiplexes are reconfigured into their final line up. It also gives time and encourages the last few viewers to make the switch before they've lost everything.
MA
Markymark
gs70 posted:
amosc100 posted:
Revitt posted:
Is it going to be the case for every transmitter that switches that BBC2 goes first and the others not for a month later? If so, what the hell for? Why not do it all at once, and why the rush to get rid of BBC2?


Possibly BBC are using historical reasons to switch BBC2 first - it was the first station to transmit in the number of lines, the channel to transmit in colour and now the first channel to lose analogue signal in each region!


BBC2 goes to allow a temporary multiplex to broadcast (a mixture of channels)


No, the multipex that has replaced BBC 2 analogue, is the final version of BBC A. It is carrying the BBC's channels. What also vanished last night at Selkirk is the old Mux 1, that the rest of the UK still has. That includes Whitehaven (OK it's not that bad a place, sorry). Whitehaven will get BBC A when parent station Caldbeck switches next year.

Selkirk will lose BBC1, ITV-1, C4 and C5 analogue on Nov 20. That day Mux 2, A, B,C,D will be replaced by D3&4, BBC B, SDN, COM A, COM B, respectively.
C5 will not be on SDN, but instead BBC B. COM A and B will be the same as Mux C and D.

BBC A Mux is reported as being at 64QAM and 8k and carrying:-

BBC One Scot
BBC Two
BBC 3
BBC 4
CBBC
BBC News
BBC Red Button (Ch 105)
BBC Radio Scotland
BBC Radio R n Gaidheal
RJ
RJG
And, it's estimated, up to 500 digital terrestrial boxes or IDTVs across the Borders can't decode the BBC channels as a result.....because they are only compatible with 2k
MA
Markymark
RJG posted:
And, it's estimated, up to 500 digital terrestrial boxes or IDTVs across the Borders can't decode the BBC channels as a result.....because they are only compatible with 2k


Yes, that comes as no surprise. It seems the Digihome (aka Vestel) PVR might not be 8k compliant either. There could be real fun and games, when the first urban area has DSO in April (Torbay area- Beacon Hill Tx )

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