TV Home Forum

Digital switchover

Max headroom is helping C4! (October 2007)

This site closed in March 2021 and is now a read-only archive
GE
thegeek Founding member
Inspector Sands posted:
There's also the logistocal aspects of the switchover - Transmitter A can't have it's digital channels added because it would interfere with Transmitters B, C D and E so they have to be switched over first etc
If anyone wants to have a go at the logistics, you can have a play with the BBC R&D game at http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/projects/switchover-game/instructions.shtml
IS
Inspector Sands
thegeek posted:
]f anyone wants to have a go at the logistics, you can have a play with the BBC R&D game at http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/projects/switchover-game/instructions.shtml


Thanks, was trying to find that!
RE
Reboot
Asa posted:
But this is the problem - it's all well them saying digital is in most homes but I'll take a wild guess it's only on one television - and most homes have more than one. Where are the stats about what percentage of TVs have actually been made digital?

51% of the 60m sets, as of Q1 2007, up from 48.5% in Q4 2006: http://www.ofcom.org.uk/research/tv/reports/dtv/dtu_2007_q1/ (see page 9-10 of the pdf at the bottom of the page - I'm not going to link straight to a pdf).

thegeek posted:
BBC Two in Whitehaven is tonight being replaced ITV1, and in ITV1s place, multiplex PSB1, which is like Mux 1, but with added Five.

I thought it was a temp multiplex with just the five "analogue" channels, which would be replaced in switchover "proper" when the others go?
CW
Charlie Wells Moderator
Looks like TVForum's TV is stuck on analogue and located in West Cumbria. Wink

On a related note I'm not too sure why BBC News and others have been say 'Whitehaven is the first town to go digital', as if it was just that town which switched over. From speaking to someone in that area I'm led to believe that the switchover affects many other towns and villages in the surrounding area. Thus on a pedantic note it's 'most of West Cumbria is the first to go digital'.
IS
Inspector Sands
Charlie Wells posted:

On a related note I'm not too sure why BBC News and others have been say 'Whitehaven is the first town to go digital', as if it was just that town which switched over. From speaking to someone in that area I'm led to believe that the switchover affects many other towns and villages in the surrounding area. Thus on a pedantic note it's 'most of West Cumbria is the first to go digital'.


It's the Whitehaven relay and it's dependents (Eskdale Green, Gosford maybe some others) that have switched. Outside of Whitehaven, Egremont and the villages along the coast like Seascale, the population covered is very small

It's not the 'most of West Cumbria' - further up the west coast from Workington upwards is served by the main transmitter at Caldbeck and that won't be able to undergo DSO until its replacement mast is built (even though it does carry digital now) http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/caldbeck/index.php
SP
Steve in Pudsey
623058 quoting the Beeb website posted:

Whitehaven's Tesco store has seen sales of digital set-top boxes rise by 1400% since the end of July, and digital TV sales were up 280% in the same period.


What a surprise - people have only just started buying digital boxes because they are about to become usable. Whe people haven't been them in Whitehaven (which had no digital signals) for the last few years is beyond me...
SP
Spencer
Brekkie Boy posted:
That's the problem, though thinking about it my family and their households have all made the switch to digital completely in terms of TV - but it's videos which are the problem.

I also think delaying the switchover is causing unneccessary confusion over digital aerials. The main problem with reception is interference - and when the analogue signals are turned off there should be less interference, and therefore it's probably less likely you'll need a digital aerial - leading to some people forking out when in the long run they might not need too.

There are also quite alot of people who though they receive digital now fine through their existing aerial believe they'll need a digital aerial after switchover - and also quite a few aerial fitters willing to exploit that belief!


There is also a widespread myth going around that there is such a thing as a 'digital aerial'. Wink
SP
Spencer
tvarksouthwest posted:
Orry Verducci posted:
I have family who live in the Whitehaven area, and from what I've seen there they tend to use the internet or BBCi for information rather than the traditional text services. Of course that doesn't represent everyone, but it shows that people realise the new services are there and the old ones are being made obsolete.

Just three years ago, the 30th anniversary of Ceefax showed us, perhaps surprisingly, how what is seen by some as a dated service was still a valued one. I could go into the advantages of digital and traditional text services but that is not what this thread is for.

What I will say, however, is that despite the massive publicity a large number of people failed to get the message when Oracle closed at the end of 1992. The ITC were apparently deluged by calls in the new year from viewers wandering what was going on. My point being? When the new ITV franchises came in at the same time, it was they that were getting all the publicity and Oracle's transition to Teletext ended up being overlooked by the news coverage. You could argue that a similar thing is happening again with teletext, as the emphasis is on making people know that analogue CHANNELS are being switched off.


With 89% of homes now watching digital TV, do you not think that if people were that bothered, there would have been complaints already about the lack of teletext?
BR
Brekkie
Charlie Wells posted:
Looks like TVForum's TV is stuck on analogue and located in West Cumbria. Wink

On a related note I'm not too sure why BBC News and others have been say 'Whitehaven is the first town to go digital', as if it was just that town which switched over. From speaking to someone in that area I'm led to believe that the switchover affects many other towns and villages in the surrounding area. Thus on a pedantic note it's 'most of West Cumbria is the first to go digital'.



Didn't a couple of small places in Wales go digital a year or so ago too?
ST
Stuart
Spencer For Hire posted:
There is also a widespread myth going around that there is such a thing as a 'digital aerial'. Wink

Indeed, and whilst some people are being advised to upgrade their ariels to receive freeview now, they could simply stick with the existing one.

I have Sky, but when I bought a new TV it had Freeview built in. I receive my signal from Caradon Hill, and without an ariel upgrade I can't get Five analogue, or Mux A (they are outside the range). But after DSO all muxes will be within my current range (and a very strong signal).

I'm sure some people are getting ariel upgrades they don't actually need!
PT
Put The Telly On
We watch on Freeview when we can but often the picture breaks so bad we just have to revert to analogue. Confused And we have a digital aerial.
GS
Gavin Scott Founding member
nok32uk posted:
And we have a digital aerial.


You have a what? Confused

Newer posts