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Derren Brown: The Events

(September 2009)

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IS
Inspector Sands
Thanks to the Broken TV blog, here's More4 and BBC1 in split screen as they went out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmxua_V1AcM

I'd have thought that there'd be a slight delay on Derren's TV screen due to it coming off air and then being re-broadcast, but it's absolutely spot on


It looked as if the "TV" in Derren's studio was being fed BBC One analogue (it didn't quite look the right shape) - which is not delayed by digital encoding and decoding and will thus be "ahead" of all digital outlets.

If the split screen is between BBC One Digital and More 4 - then the route taken by the BBC one image to get to your home via both routes is likely to have had similar delays. (The delay introduced by routing BBC One analogue via a display Riverside and back to C4/Red Bee is likely to be only the order of around five or so frames I'd expect - as uncompressed or low latency compressed fibre links will be used to get the studio to the playout area)


Ahhh, I'd forgotten about analogue (as sad as that sounds), that would make sense. I assume they they chose that as a source so to avoid any extra delay, unless they were lucky enough to be able to get across the line from 'Lottery HQ'

Still, I'm surprised how exactly it was on that video, especially considering the route that the BBC1 via More 4 image would have taken including 2trips through Red Bee
SE
Square Eyes Founding member
Here we go, this guy's got it sussed Smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqAt2akPHJ8
BH
BillyH Founding member
Channel 4 just showed a trailer for tomorrow's show with Derren Brown in front of the winning numbers, holding up a snowflake.

Snowflake = Frozen, as in a metaphor for the frozen image? Starting to believe it now...
PC
p_c_u_k
Entertaining, Derren Brown's site is pointing to this blog:

http://derrenbrownlotteryprediction.wordpress.com/
PT
Put The Telly On
Channel 4 just showed a trailer for tomorrow's show with Derren Brown in front of the winning numbers, holding up a snowflake.

Snowflake = Frozen, as in a metaphor for the frozen image? Starting to believe it now...


I don't reckon there's any clues in that trailer. The snowflake could mean absolutely nothing.. just a way to get the viewer thinking.
DO
dosxuk
I feel it's more likely to be a reference to the second programme in the series, where he will be freezing people to their sofas.
TR
trivialmatters
I watched on virgin media and flicked between BBC 1 and Channel 4, and noticed that Channel 4's broadcast of the lottery numbers was about half a second ahead of BBC1! I could flick from Channel 4 to BBC1 and it wouldn't sound like I'd interrupted a sentence on the Lottery, but when going from BBC1 to Channel 4 I'd always lose a word or so as the channel change.

The camera 'wobble' also stood out for me as completely unnatural, it looks fake rather than deliberate wobbling.

As for the 'rising ball' - it looks like they used stick-on letters, rather than moving the balls?

I agree that "it was a camera trick" would be rubbish. And of course saying he couldn't show his "prediction" is nonsense too, as he's not revealing the lottery draw, he's revealing his prediction. It would be illegal to play the lottery if you weren't allowed to choose the winning numbers! Laughing
Last edited by trivialmatters on 10 September 2009 4:21pm - 2 times in total
IM
IM
I feel it's more likely to be a reference to the second programme in the series, where he will be freezing people to their sofas.


May one ask when they will be showing this programme? I believe the big reveal about how he 'predicted' the winning numbers will be completely fake. It was just bad camera tricks and nothing else.
ES
Ebeneezer Scrooge
I watched the trailer for last night's show earlier on youtube, it appeared to be a split screen production with him juggling with one hand and presenting to camera at the same time. I do think the snow flake will be more to do with episode 2 - it makes far more sense to me that someone such as Derren Brown would put effort into promoting future events than looking back to past ones, but maybe it's all linked in anyway.
That said, if it is just done with freeze frame, it'll be a bit dissapointing!

Can't help but feel that the keeping the audience glued to their sofas thing will be like the 'how to entertain an idiot for hours' jokes - to find out how to freeze an audience to their sofa, join us after the break... before you know it, the programme is over and you've been glued to the seat, the channel and the advertisers are happy!
CH
chris
I'm not going to venture a theory on this - not just because I haven't got one but also because if it's wrong I'll look like an idiot.
DM
Dave M
When Derren switches the TV off the reflection of the card on the TV is blank!

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h162/daveraveuk/lotto.jpg
JE
Jenny Founding member
Can't help but feel that the keeping the audience glued to their sofas thing will be like the 'how to entertain an idiot for hours' jokes - to find out how to freeze an audience to their sofa, join us after the break... before you know it, the programme is over and you've been glued to the seat, the channel and the advertisers are happy!


That would be delightfully cheeky... though unlikely. However, what he seems to be proposing is just plain illegal. So either he, Objective and Channel 4 have decided to flout the law and take the consequences, or he's got something extraordinary clever up his sleeve... or it's all a big bluff. Well, he does say these are feats of misdirection.

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