He clearly suggests they should move that content to CBBC.
Makes some sense - CBBC doesn't really serve anybody daytime on schooldays.
So basically, make CBeebies into filler content for CBBC?
CBeebies is one of the BBC's most successful areas, in my opinion. What are those with under 6s going to do outside the time that CBBC finds it convenient to place its pre-school content?
It is yes, but is providing entertainment for toddlers literally all day necessary? Can it not just be a daytime thing as it largely was 10 years ago?
He clearly suggests they should move that content to CBBC.
Makes some sense - CBBC doesn't really serve anybody daytime on schooldays.
So basically, make CBeebies into filler content for CBBC?
CBeebies is one of the BBC's most successful areas, in my opinion. What are those with under 6s going to do outside the time that CBBC finds it convenient to place its pre-school content?
It is yes, but is providing entertainment for toddlers literally all day necessary? Can it not just be a daytime thing as it largely was 10 years ago?
I believe so. Maybe that's just because I have a reasonable amount of experience with small children, but it's invaluable, and not just as something that the parent/guardian/minder finds more useful than the child. I do genuinely believe this.
And I don't think saying 'it was perfectly good two decades ago' is necessarily a good way to look at something - after all, I do see this as progress.
So your proposal is to close one the most popular channels and to have no original british programming for the under 6s made at all then? Excellent.
Is it eckerslike.......
What I am proposing is merging the 2 children's channnels.
Cbeebies, I believe would NOT be a filler for CBBC but I see it as part of a natural progression for children and young adults onwards. I agree that the weekends would pose a slight problem as I was trying to give EQUAL airtime to both young children and older children and when either would be in the majority for the channel.
Also the way I have done it is basically a natural progression for the whole transponder with CBBC/Cbeebies followed by a natural progression to the youth/younger-adult orientated BBC3.
Yes, I do know that younger children have to be "entertained" more than older children as parents are often doing something else and want their children not to disturb them, but I am also thinking about technology here. IF a younger child does want to be entertained whilst a CBBC bloc of programming is on air then why not go over to the BBC Iplayer, which is now installed in many newer televisions, or it is simple to attach viewing from a PC to a TV, and download the programmes that way.
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Ah yes all kids.in poverty can just hock up their PC etc...
Yes, I do know that younger children have to be "entertained" more than older children as parents are often doing something else and want their children not to disturb them, but I am also thinking about technology here. IF a younger child does want to be entertained whilst a CBBC bloc of programming is on air then why not go over to the BBC Iplayer, which is now installed in many newer televisions, or it is simple to attach viewing from a PC to a TV, and download the programmes that way.
Internet TV may be the future but we're nowhere near yet - 90% of content is still viewed in the traditional linear way. At the moment, it's far easier to flick on the TV than it is to boot up a PC, connect to the internet and stream via iPlayer, especially for parents with young children; that may sound lazy but it's the truth. There's also streaming quality vs. broadcast to factor into the equation (broadband speeds still aren't fantastic for most).
In any case, it would be absolute madness to sacrifice the most popular, acclaimed and appreciated children's channel in the UK, hit reset and go back to pre-2002 awkward short blocs here and there.
Whether CBBC/CBeebies will leave BBC2 is an interesting one. What on earth would they put on 6-11.30 every morning? Pages from BBCi?
Whether CBBC/CBeebies will leave BBC2 is an interesting one. What on earth would they put on 6-11.30 every morning? Pages from BBCi?
With Ceefax biting the dust next year too there are hours and hours of BBC2 every day/night with nothing in particular confirmed to show, unless they're going to go all-out on the repeats front.
What I am proposing is merging the 2 children's channnels.
Cbeebies, I believe would NOT be a filler for CBBC but I see it as part of a natural progression for children and young adults onwards. I agree that the weekends would pose a slight problem as I was trying to give EQUAL airtime to both young children and older children and when either would be in the majority for the channel.
Also the way I have done it is basically a natural progression for the whole transponder with CBBC/Cbeebies followed by a natural progression to the youth/younger-adult orientated BBC3.
As I see it - with a 8 month old son, your plan has a big flaw. Our boy doesn't watch CBeebies during the day unless he's really unsettled. However, the most valuable part of the CBeebies schedule for us and many of our friends is the calming part of the schedule known as the bedtime hour... 1800 - 1900. Combining Cbeebies and CBBC immediately cuts this most valuable part of the channel's output.
What I am proposing is merging the 2 children's channnels.
Cbeebies, I believe would NOT be a filler for CBBC but I see it as part of a natural progression for children and young adults onwards. I agree that the weekends would pose a slight problem as I was trying to give EQUAL airtime to both young children and older children and when either would be in the majority for the channel.
Also the way I have done it is basically a natural progression for the whole transponder with CBBC/Cbeebies followed by a natural progression to the youth/younger-adult orientated BBC3.
As I see it - with a 8 month old son, your plan has a big flaw. Our boy doesn't watch CBeebies during the day unless he's really unsettled. However, the most valuable part of the CBeebies schedule for us and many of our friends is the calming part of the schedule known as the bedtime hour... 1800 - 1900. Combining Cbeebies and CBBC immediately cuts this most valuable part of the channel's output.
CBeebies is the absolute definition of public service broadcasting. An invaluable, educational channel which also ensures until fives are not targeted by endless adverts which deliver pester power, ideally it would actually be on air for longer as the sleeping patterns of pre-school children are a little unpredictable.
No commercial operator could afford to invest such money in original programming, which assists the UK production industry and also ensures our children are actually educated in a way relevant to the country they live in. The only commercial channels serving the same sort of sector that I have seen are either incredibly poor or have no educational side to them whatsoever.
I've only looked after pre-school children for friends, so can't judge the merits of CBBC. However I'd imagine the situation is the same - it has educational elements which don't exist in other channels, and UK production. Is there a case for fewer hours? Perhaps, although remember quite how many school holidays children get, and the need for an audience to know that station will be there when they want to watch it. (even 5 Live Sports Extra leaves a constant stream on DAB to market its presence).
