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IS
Inspector Sands
In every case that I know of - the "local" archive is transferred to the successor.

The only exception I know of is TSW, who gifted their entire archive (including what they'd bought from Westward) to a specially formed concern (mentioned earlier in this thread).

Thames' wasn't either. I don't know how much exists or if they market it all, but clips from it do appear on the Thames TV YouTube channel occasionally.

Quite a lot of BBC and ITV regional news archive doesn't still live at the ITV/BBC because it has been given to regional film archives as well as the South West one.
MACE has ATV/Central regional material up to 1990.
The University of East Anglia has a lot of Anglia and BBC East's archive.
ITV Wales' archive was transferred to the National Library of Wales this year (link in Welsh)

I think the deals with these vary, the latter website specifically says that ITV and the BBC still own the content. This might be the case with the others too. I would assume that the TV companies would have a way to easily access it if needed for broadcast. Also it looks like they retain commercial use of the footage.
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A former member
In every case that I know of - the "local" archive is transferred to the successor. This also includes regional programming AFAI, so would include that current affairs/investigation programme hosted by a young Dermot Murnaghan - so the Southern and TVS regional programming archive went to Meridian at Northam, and is now in Leeds.

The only exception I know of is TSW, who gifted their entire archive (including what they'd bought from Westward) to a specially formed concern (mentioned earlier in this thread).


SOUTH
TVS Bar News and sport never brought southern Archive, Merd, never brought TVS archive bar news and sports and some local programmes.

Midlands
Central never got most of ATV archive

Thames
Carton was never allowed near anything of there stuff not even news I believe

For anyone interested Grampian and Scottish both have donated some really old stuff to Scottish screen archive.
IS
Inspector Sands

Thames
Carton was never allowed near anything of there stuff not even news I believe

'Carton' didn't do any news themselves of course. LNN's tape library had the LWT News archive but nothing before that.
MG
MikeGNE


Midlands
Central never got most of ATV archive


If you mean local news reports and programmes they all remained at Central until Granada dumped them off elsewhere. They kept with the national programming the local ones at the Central Archive. The Central Film Unit had the ATV local reports on film in there (as used by Central in 1985 for Crossroads Revisited as it was cheaper to use ATV News clips of the actors than from the ATV era shows). Local progammes likewise, and Central did repeat some local ATV programming when needed, Format V Nolly when Noele Gordon died ect.
WP
WillPS


Midlands
Central never got most of ATV archive


If you mean local news reports and programmes they all remained at Central until Granada dumped them off elsewhere. They kept with the national programming the local ones at the Central Archive. The Central Film Unit had the ATV local reports on film in there (as used by Central in 1985 for Crossroads Revisited as it was cheaper to use ATV News clips of the actors than from the ATV era shows). Local progammes likewise, and Central did repeat some local ATV programming when needed, Format V Nolly when Noele Gordon died ect.

That was my understanding also. Central also took control of the ATV Schools Programming library.
WH
Whataday Founding member
as I mentioned in the Gerry Anderson thread, Central licensed Crossroads from ATV which is one of the reasons the format and theme tune changed eventually beyond recognition.
WP
WillPS
Is that incompatible with what MikeGNE and I stated?
MG
MikeGNE
The thing with that was Peter Ling and Hazel Adair owned the character/motel stuff (Peter said he also got paid for the newer versions as well for the use of Kings Oak as the village name). So I'm not sure the revamp in '85 was totally down to rights, I think it was more Ted Childs wanting rid of it as the producer Phillip Bowman implied. I know Jane Rossington tried to buy the rights from Central and they said no deal.

I don't know what was 'licensed' but a lot of network programmes certainly did move over to Central although it was one of the few that was technically the same management and entire staff. (Central is still in its founding documents listed as ATV Midlands LTD) so it was an evolution unlike Southern/TVS which was one company totally out the door and another coming in.

But certainly the VT tapes and film remained with Central that was from the ATV era. I know that as naughty copies of ATV programmes were floating out of Broad Street in the mid-80s before more official Central Enterprises/ITC VHS deals were made.

I have interviewed ATV/Central boss Charles Denton who oversaw all those changes, but I can't recall if I asked him about this, but as far as he was concerned it was just a new name and a chance for a 'better image' than ATV had. I will have a look at it and see if he does say anything certain. There is also one of the production bosses still around who had a lot to do with ATV/Central VT, maybe someone should ask him... Richard Jeffs.
RB
RB
Not a defunct region.
But someone has put some Border stuff, including rushes, on YouTube
For example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddOM5wopD7o

Interesting to note that Border's regional news was still black and white in 1973.
MA
Markymark

Thames
Carton was never allowed near anything of there stuff not even news I believe

'Carton' didn't do any news themselves of course.


Carton ?

Actually, probably suits the company far better than the name Carlton Laughing
IS
Inspector Sands
If you mean local news reports and programmes they all remained at Central until Granada dumped them off elsewhere.

See my post above, they're at MACE
MG
MikeGNE
Yes, as I said, Granada dumped them elsewhere and dumped a few other things in skips which was nice of them. Not sure what ATV or Central ever did to them...

(Photographs notably, I was called up by ITV Archive asking for ATV photos... in the end they got copies from the TV Times to replace what Granada binned in 2003.)

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