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The Need for a (Decent) Video Games Show on TV

(November 2008)

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JR
jrothwell97
Now, I don't claim to be a gamer, but I can see that there is quite a major need for a decent magazine-style show on video games, especially as it's technically now Britain's favourite hobby.

So, what format? Should it adopt a GamesMaster style format? Or one a bit like Top Gear ? Maybe it should be set in a studio with a giant LAN party and with the presenter(s) wading through half-empty pizza boxes to get into a position where they can speak to camera?

Your thoughts, please.
MS
Mr-Stabby
Maybe we should have some examples of video games shows to see how it should or SHOULDN'T be done.

I think a lot of gamers will remember Gamezville on Sky One. Probably a perfect example of how NOT to do a video games show. Employ 2 blokes who clearly know p*ss all about gaming, stick them in a studio with some kids who might like to play games, but are clearly incapable of properly reviewing a video game other than 'It has good graphics....' and just generally try to be 'cool' and fail miserably.

I think the two best video games shows have both been hosted by Violet Berlin. Bad Influence and Gamepad. Shows which treat gamers like intelligent people, and have reviews which are both entertaining and intelligent at the same time. I mean could you imagine a report on video game piracy on Gamezville?
JC
JonathanC
It's very easy to say a "Top Gear" style show - but it's a much too vague request. With cars, there's something tangible that can be explored, experimented with... with games, you've got people playing them, and in game competition challenges generally aren't very interesting. There's not much you can do with cinematography too, you want the game footage and audio to be representative of what people will get when they play the game itself.

Of the elements of Top Gear that actually could practically work, the magazine format with cutaways, entertaining yet informative tone, and the presenter dynamic with the banter.

However, there's the misguided impression that there should be a one size fits all show. Maybe one show that would cover everything, but it couldn't possibly appeal to all audiences - it's oft forgotten games are just another entertainment medium, such as TV, movies or films - and say, Screenwipe, whilst it covers all TV, the audience for the show is not the audience for everything covered within it.

So, there's the audience problem. Yes, a general population review show would be safe, but I think there's room for the enthusiast, more industry look at the world of gaming. I don't mean anything to do with looking at sales as graphs, and the second a pie chart would come on screen the show should be axed, but maybe more intelligent discussion and features. Not a Newsnight panel show, but high calibur interviews with people within the industry, films showing an interesting take on development, retail and PR... a show for the enthusiast who isn't specifically in the industry.

Yet another problem is the industry itself. It's very backwards, in a way. Most of the time, the more coverage from games companies, the better. So, you'd think games companies would be going to the press, and I'm talking the big sites, pretty much just throwing ideas, interviews and stuff at them - but no, it's much more of a bug PR, beg PR and try and get anything out of them, and the internet has caused that quite a bit - it's easy for anyone to start up a site, so you really need to convince the PR team it's worth them blessing you with their time. To build up the respect a show like Top Gear has, the way companies still pay it attention despite not always being positive (with the exception of the incident at the start of last week's road trip), it's an uphill struggle that would take forever.

As briefly touched upon in the Screenwipe thread, and as hinted towards by Wells, I've tried making a games show online. It started with the BGB Wire, about 3 years ago, which had a 1 hr (over 3 episodes) in depth interview with the then Guitar Hero developers (now doing Rock Band) Harmonix, a type of interview I'd like to do again - really got a sense for the development team behind it, decisions being made... but not a casual friendly thing at all, not a trade show "so how awesome is your game, what are you doing with it" interview. There was an event coverage episode, and then things really took some shape with a Deal or No Deal DVD Game review. It wasn't perfect by any means, but it was obviously influenced by Screenwipe. That was followed by the Alternate Awards 2007, which personally was a fun episode, again obviously made by one kid in his free time, but wasn't half bad.

This year, I decided to move to a spinoff series, which quickly became the main "brand" for video content on the site I do with a few friends, BritishGaming.co.uk - which has made a surprisingly (relatively) big impact in the industry. The show was BGB Newswire, which was a weekly satirical take on the news. Things changed, it improved, I'd obviously recommend the later episodes, and as well as the Screenwipe influence from before I also was going for a bit of a The Late Edition thing. It was for people in the know, but tried to be entertaining as well as informative, where I wasn't too bothered about being the first there with the story. There's also some E3 summary episodes and event coverage in there, the Summer Athletics special, and the latter 5 minutes of that is possibly my favourite video editing work I've done.

I should probably reflect on lessons from Newswire, but it's 1am and this post is getting long and I'll come back on that at some point.
CH
Chie
They should bring back Movies, Games and Videos

I don't think a programme just about video games would be very appealing, but incorporating other forms of visual media could provide enough material to pad out a decent half-hour show.
WO
Woody_streatham
Playr on Bravo is quite good.
FA
fairlie
The Totally Rad Show does excellent reviews on Movies, Games and TVs.

http://revision3.com/trs/
JR
jrothwell97
Let's not forget Gamerweb on Friendly TV. Christ, that was awful...
AJ
AJ
Woody_streatham posted:
Playr on Bravo is quite good.


I think its predecessor, Gamer TV, was much better personally.
AL
altrus
fairlie posted:
The Totally Rad Show does excellent reviews on Movies, Games and TVs.

http://revision3.com/trs/


Not really on tv.

Also don't like the sterotypical 'American Gamer Dude' thing there doing with the show.
JC
JonathanC
Totally Rad... I just can't watch it. Partially because it's really an audio show, and I just can't stand the hosts.

In other gaming news, I just got a call from EA worried about me leaking things. I deny that.
LL
Larry the Loafer
If CITV wasn't as sh*t as it is now, I'd call for a return of Bad Influence.

But seriously guys, was I the only one who liked Gamezville?
JC
JonathanC
Larry the Loafer posted:

But seriously guys, was I the only one who liked Gamezville?


...yes.

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