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The DEATH OF CELEBRITY

(September 2005)

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PT
Put The Telly On
*rubs hands* Oooh am I going to enjoy this. Piers has already 'puked' over Abi Titmuss new book! Very Happy
CW
Charlie Wells Moderator
I thought it was the new reality show from Five when I read the programme name. Laughing
BB
BBC TV Centre
Dear me, there I was thinking that ITV1 was going to disappear off our screens. Laughing
M
M@ Founding member
A decent programme from Channel 4, albeit not terribly insightful but then, what more can be said?
BR
Brekkie
What - no Lizzie Bardsley!

Good programme, though I did have some disagreements with the lists - Tony Blair, the Royal Family and David Beckham are hardly in the same league as Jordan and Abi Titmuss!
PT
Put The Telly On
This is the only programme I can say that I was disappointed there was no Tara Palmer Tompkinson or Lizzie Bardsley! Mad

Its people like Martine McCutcheon I feel sorry for. I know she's gone onto do stage and film work but I reckon she was shunted by the influx or Z-listers.
AN
Andrew Founding member
Brekkie Boy posted:
What - no Lizzie Bardsley!

Good programme, though I did have some disagreements with the lists - Tony Blair, the Royal Family and David Beckham are hardly in the same league as Jordan and Abi Titmuss!

Indeed. I would say the Royal Family are exempt. It's not as if they are in Heat magazine every week and appearing on celebrity based reality shows!
Tony Blair can't exactly help being a celebrity either!
JO
Johnny83
nok32uk posted:
This is the only programme I can say that I was disappointed there was no Tara Palmer Tompkinson or Lizzie Bardsley! Mad

Its people like Martine McCutcheon I feel sorry for. I know she's gone onto do stage and film work but I reckon she was shunted by the influx or Z-listers.


Have to agree with you in regards to Martine

To be fair the British public is partly to blame for this. if we didn't watch these reality shows we wouldn't know these people so they wouldn't get the publicity. However not ll are that bad
BR
Brekkie
Johnny83 posted:
nok32uk posted:
This is the only programme I can say that I was disappointed there was no Tara Palmer Tompkinson or Lizzie Bardsley! Mad

Its people like Martine McCutcheon I feel sorry for. I know she's gone onto do stage and film work but I reckon she was shunted by the influx or Z-listers.


Have to agree with you in regards to Martine

To be fair the British public is partly to blame for this. if we didn't watch these reality shows we wouldn't know these people so they wouldn't get the publicity. However not ll are that bad



I think it's more the press than the public (though the public obviously buy the press - bit of a chicken and the egg scenario!).

Take Big Brother for example - I'm hugely addicted to the show and want to know everything that goes on during the series, but once the HMs aren't out of the house I'm not that interested in what they are up to. Actually I have far more interest now in the HMs that disappeared from the lime-light rather than those who refuse to leave it!


As for Celebrity reality shows. It all changed really with I'm a Celebrity. The first Celebrity Big Brother was about six (not A-list, but quite famous) celebs giving up their time for free to raise money for charity.

Since I'm a Celeb came along it's been about celebrities cashing it in for themselves, being paid tens of thousands to appear (often more than they raise for charity). In fact, the charities are never mentioned on the show.

The TV companies also became more concern in their own profits rather than what was raised for charity, raising money through pointless phone votes so rather than celeb chefs being judged on their talent in Hells Kitchen, it's based on their popularity.

As more rip-off reality shows emerged, the standard of celeb went down - and I think the shows are now suffering as a consequence.

I'm sure there are a handful of decent B-list celebs who would be willing to appear on shows like I'm a Celeb to raise money for charity - but pass up the opportunity as they don't want to be put in the same box as the likes of Abi Titmuss.


A couple of years ago I used to use the phrase "Celebrity killed the reality star" alot round here - and I think it's more true than ever. I'd much rather see a show like Bad Lads Army than Celebrity Love Island anyday!
MS
Mr-Stabby
I just think it's ironic that the Channel which really began the reality phenomenon in the UK should make a program moaning about it.
JO
Johnny83
Mr-Stabby posted:
I just think it's ironic that the Channel which really began the reality phenomenon in the UK should make a program moaning about it.


the Tv Times said a very simualr thing as well
AN
All New Johnnyboy
How sexy did Martine McCutcheon look? Very very nice.

On the subject itselt, the whole cult of celebrity (whether they are talented or not) pisses me off - mind you, this is what happens when you remove God from a society (not that I believe in God, mind you).

I feel nothing but contempt for the Maxwells and Saskias of this world, the entire cast-list of BB through the years (with the exception of Nick and Derek).

My girlfriend of about a year-and-a-half ago was obsessed by Heat magazine. She was a funny, intelligent and reasonably attractive lass who was a minority shareholder in some telecoms company or other - she had more than two brain cells to rub together, for definite. She'd occasionally try to engage me in conversation about some celebrity non-entity or other and I felt myself losing the will to live.

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