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Daybreak - the launch onwards

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House
dbl posted:
Hmmm... compare the poll to Twitter, and you get a real picture of the audience reaction.


Though I agree with you - it's possible one could argue proportionally more people would mention Daybreak on a service like twitter if they were against it than if they were in favour of it, as most of the public don't seem to go out of their way to praise something like a programme they watch as they get ready for work or getting offspring to school.
IS
Inspector Sands
buster posted:
noggin posted:
stevek2 posted:
Ri:se tried going back to a Big breakfast format and failed


Hmm - it didn't really revert to a Big Breakfast format though - did it?


In many respects it did, bloke and bird sitting in front of a window with crew interaction was the basis of their big relaunch. A long way from Mark Durden-Smith's original promise of "no whooping crew members"!

Yes RI:SE mark 2 did owe a lot to The Big Breakfast. It's worth remembering that The Big Breakfast reverted to it's original format twice, both times they tried to smarten it up and reformat but then returned to the winning format.

Perhaps the 'Good Morning Britain' and 'Big Breakfast' formats are essentially archetypes - the only 2 that have ever worked on commercial TV and to which everything returns?

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For all Daybreak has wrong with it, nothing can quite top how dire the origina RI:SE was...there was a brilliant review on Off The Telly at the time, not sure if it's still online.

http://www.offthetelly.co.uk/?p=5370
IS
Inspector Sands
VirginMediaPhil posted:
Not really, I find it quite enjoyable. TV Live's poll found that Daybreak was the most watched show in the morning, and ratings are up.

TV Live, whassat?
CY
cylon6
VirginMediaPhil posted:
dbl posted:
ginofish posted:
SatGold posted:
Should have stuck with gmtv now they gotta make all these changes similarities with gmtv I.e warmer feel sets.


Oh Please stop praising GMTV . It Was rubbish

And so is Daybreak at the moment.


Not really, I find it quite enjoyable. TV Live's poll found that Daybreak was the most watched show in the morning, and ratings are up.


Maybe so but that doesn't reflect the BARB ratings. Daybreak does seem to be improving but I like the local news being at set times on Breakfast. Daybreak is a programme that is constantly evolving. Let's see how it looks and does in a year's time.
WP
WillPS
It'll look like this:
http://frosts.tv/images/mainpics/gmtv.jpg
AL
altrus
WillPS posted:


Rolling Eyes
Wow I forgot how terrible the GMTV studio looked until I saw that.
CH
chris
VirginMediaPhil posted:
Not really, I find it quite enjoyable. TV Live's poll found that Daybreak was the most watched show in the morning


I find it strange that you use that as a defence for Daybreak, considering only 34 people voted for Daybreak, and you could easily vote more than once. I can imagine ginofish sat over half term clicking Daybreak about twenty times.

Cross Channel posted:
Ben posted:
Both sets were designed by Jonathan Paul Green.

They've moved the right hand sofa at a slight angle, both so the clock is in the background but also so that Adrian and Christine appear closer to guests (or at least that's how it was when I caught it last week).


Wrong -

Jonathan Paul Green did Daybreak


Alright Cross Channel - no need to sound so smug that you know something poor Ben didn't...
BU
buster
Inspector Sands posted:


Perhaps the 'Good Morning Britain' and 'Big Breakfast' formats are essentially archetypes - the only 2 that have ever worked on commercial TV and to which everything returns?



You may well be right. It's worth remembering how few breakfast TV launches work straight off - I think the original BBC Breakfast Time and The Big Breakfast are perhaps the only ones that have been immediate successes (although even the BB was helped by TV-am going off air). GMTV and BBC Breakfast both took a while to get going and become successful (and in both cases help by the opposition's decline) and the rest - I'm thinking Channel 4 Daily, RI:SE, The Big Breakfast's 1996 and 2001 relaunches - were mostly flops from the outset. So it's a bit early to write off Daybreak, but at the same time it's immensely difficult to establish something at that time of the morning so the odds are stacked against it.

Cheers for finding the article. I do miss Off The Telly...the 2008 US elections review was on the funniest tv reviews I've ever read!
Last edited by buster on 3 November 2010 10:48am
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rob Founding member
Inspector Sands posted:
VirginMediaPhil posted:
Not really, I find it quite enjoyable. TV Live's poll found that Daybreak was the most watched show in the morning, and ratings are up.

TV Live, whassat?


ahem... Very Happy

chris posted:
I find it strange that you use that as a defence for Daybreak, considering only 34 people voted for Daybreak, and you could easily vote more than once. I can imagine ginofish sat over half term clicking Daybreak about twenty times.


The vote was set-up to allow one vote per IP address only. For the record, only 18 people voted for Daybreak. 34 people voted in total. Hope that's cleared up.
Last edited by rob on 3 November 2010 12:28pm
WP
WillPS
buster posted:
Inspector Sands posted:


Perhaps the 'Good Morning Britain' and 'Big Breakfast' formats are essentially archetypes - the only 2 that have ever worked on commercial TV and to which everything returns?



You may well be right. It's worth remembering how few breakfast TV launches work straight off - I think the original BBC Breakfast Time and The Big Breakfast are perhaps the only ones that have been immediate successes (although even the BB was helped by TV-am going off air). GMTV and BBC Breakfast both took a while to get going and become successful (and in both cases help by the opposition's decline) and the rest - I'm thinking Channel 4 Daily, RI:SE, The Big Breakfast's 1996 and 2001 relaunches - were mostly flops from the outset. So it's a bit early to write off Daybreak, but at the same time it's immensely difficult to establish something at that time of the morning so the odds are stacked against it.

Cheers for finding the article. I do miss Off The Telly...the 2008 US elections review was on the funniest tv reviews I've ever read!
The original Big Breakfast was more of a sleeper hit. It really took off in 1993 (the last time exactly what is happening now previously happened).
CH
chris
rob posted:
The vote was set-up to allow one vote per IP address only. For the record, only 18 people voted for Daybreak. 34 people voted in total. Hope that's cleared up.


Ahhh I thought I voted twice but obviously my second vote didn't go through. And yes, I meant 34 in total. Apologies. Hardly a great sample of the 60m people in Britain though.
IS
Inspector Sands
rob posted:
Inspector Sands posted:
VirginMediaPhil posted:
Not really, I find it quite enjoyable. TV Live's poll found that Daybreak was the most watched show in the morning, and ratings are up.

TV Live, whassat?


ahem... Very Happy

...and it's polls are relevant how exactly? Wink
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