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Daybreak - the launch onwards

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SP
Spencer
Wonder if any BBC Midlands viewers defecting from Breakfast are listening to Phil Upton @ Breakfast on BBC WM seeing it seems to get a plug most mornings?

Notice Jo Malin still getting her snout in during the 825 bully, to promote her show.
(Do they let her stand ins do a spot on TV too or not? Mind you, would you let Mollie Green on live regional tv? Nooo! Laughing )

I thought a radio plug at the 0825 regional news was fairly standard? (there's often wailing and gnashing of teeth in my office if people don't hit the mute button before Vanessa Feltz opens her mouth)


Look North (Leeds) more often than not plug one of the BBC LR breakfast shows, often showing a feed from the studio webcam. It previously only ever used to be Radios Leeds and Sheffield, but since Radio York moved to Leeds, they now get to appear too.

Incidentally, I'm sure the Radio Sheffield presenter and producer were having a 'heated discussion' when they cut to them the other day. There was certainly some pointing of fingers going on. Laughing
SD
SlappaDaBass
Add Daybreaks and Lorraine's figures and they're probably the same as GMTV was getting, there's probably loads more tuning in after 9am when the school run is over and that's when the peak is.

The peak is not after 9am but between 8 and 8.30am, before the school run.
CH
chris
Add Daybreaks and Lorraine's figures and they're probably the same as GMTV was getting, there's probably loads more tuning in after 9am when the school run is over and that's when the peak is.

The peak is not after 9am but between 8 and 8.30am, before the school run.


Surely with most primary schools starting around 8:30am, most will have left by 8:10/8:15am - how can that be peak? I would have thought 7:30am - 8:15 would be the peak-ish time. Correct me if I'm wrong Smile
SD
SlappaDaBass
chris posted:
Add Daybreaks and Lorraine's figures and they're probably the same as GMTV was getting, there's probably loads more tuning in after 9am when the school run is over and that's when the peak is.

The peak is not after 9am but between 8 and 8.30am, before the school run.

Surely with most primary schools starting around 8:30am, most will have left by 8:10/8:15am - how can that be peak? I would have thought 7:30am - 8:15 would be the peak-ish time. Correct me if I'm wrong Smile

I'm not sure "most" primary schools start at 8.30am, although many secondary schools do nowadays. Anyway, post 8am is certainly the traditional peak viewing time.
AN
Andrew Founding member
The current situation with Daybreak is very similar to when Richard & Judy first moved to Channel 4

(Presenters moved to new unfamilar time slot, initial low ratings, tabloids publishing negative stories every day)

So how did R&J manage to turn it around into a much loved show?
CH
chris
The current situation with Daybreak is very similar to when Richard & Judy first moved to Channel 4

(Presenters moved to new unfamilar time slot, initial low ratings, tabloids publishing negative stories every day)

So how did R&J manage to turn it around into a much loved show?


I'd say they had actual husband and wife chemistry, unlike AC and CB who obviously don't. Because it's Breakfast television too, I think it's a different kettle of fish. There are certain elements that are imperative on a Breakfast show (weather, news etc.) whereas 5 o'clock shows could be anything. Paul O'Grady was very different to R&J but both were a success in that time slot.
IS
Inspector Sands
With Richard and Judy there was the factor that no-one had put a talk show on at that time until then - it was a new genre and it took the public a while to get used to it.

That's not something that can be said with breakfast TV
MG
MikeGNE
So how did R&J manage to turn it around into a much loved show?


They didn't do a thing, ITV axed Crossroads and gave them a nice audience increase in 2003. There is an article from 2003 where they celebrate their rise in ratings having done utterly nothing to the format of the show. I don't think the BBC in this case will be meddling with their programmes to help ITV along.
DA
David
Viewers in the South East might be aware that weather presenter Nazaneen Ghaffar left BBC South East Today this evening. Polly Evans (South East Today presenter) said on Facebook "We're sorry Dave*, we're sad too. But the lovely Kaddy, Kaye. Lara Lewington & er Michael Fish will be there to brighten up your day. Oh and you'll be able to see her on a rival broadcaster in the mornings" and "National rival David*, in the mornings Sad"

*She was not addressing me.

I don't want to put 2 and 2 together and come up with a racial slur^H^H^H^H 5 but I thought this was worth mentioning.
NE
newswatcher
David posted:
Viewers in the South East might be aware that weather presenter Nazaneen Ghaffar left BBC South East Today this evening. Polly Evans (South East Today presenter) said on Facebook "We're sorry Dave*, we're sad too. But the lovely Kaddy, Kaye. Lara Lewington & er Michael Fish will be there to brighten up your day. Oh and you'll be able to see her on a rival broadcaster in the mornings" and "National rival David*, in the mornings Sad"

*She was not addressing me.

I don't want to put 2 and 2 together and come up with a racial slur^H^H^H^H 5 but I thought this was worth mentioning.


she's the Lucy Verasamy replacement on Sky News
IS
Inspector Sands
So how did R&J manage to turn it around into a much loved show?


They didn't do a thing, ITV axed Crossroads and gave them a nice audience increase in 2003. There is an article from 2003 where they celebrate their rise in ratings having done utterly nothing to the format of the show. I don't think the BBC in this case will be meddling with their programmes to help ITV along.

But no-one watched Crossroads..... if they had it wouldn't have been axed. It was more to do with people not really being used to watching that sort of programme in that slot. Of course it was a trailblazer, with ITV and C4 both following it with talk shows in that slot
MG
MikeGNE
But no-one watched Crossroads..... if they had it wouldn't have been axed.


It was in 2001-2002 one of ITVs highest rating daytime programmes. It was unfortunate there for they decided to revamp it although why they did that is another story all together. The same one applies to Family Fortunes and anything made by Carlton outside of London. And then the 2003 series failed. I note the Ananova story from Feb 2003. Richard and Judy only months ago faced the axe (winter 2002), however an increase in ratings has secured a new series. The over 2 million viewers ITV had previously had have dipped to under 1 million with a boost to Channel 4.

It was more to do with people not really being used to watching that sort of programme in that slot. Of course it was a trailblazer, with ITV and C4 both following it with talk shows in that slot


ITV had a chat show in the 1960s at 4.30/5pm, HI-T, thats just one. I haven't really had time to look but hardly a first for Richard and Judy.

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