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Daybreak - the launch onwards

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WA
watchingtv
Seven sunrise use their 4 presenters more than just for their own roles, Nat Barr chats on the sofa and Berreta often introduces something. Is it possible for a 3 presenter format and the. Loose the editor roles and sport and news area altogether.
VM
VMPhil
Well whatever happens, all the best luck to everyone at ITV Breakfast.
NE
neilly
No, just no.

GMTV needed to go. It needed to go for ITV to refresh its breakfast offering. There's no "all it needed was revamp" about it. Whatever happens, GMTV should not come back. It's in the past. Bringing GMTV back would be the absolute worst decision IMO. I cannot stress that enough.

ITV did get the Daybreak launch wrong, and they launched it with the wrong presenters. Really, the show should have tried to become successful at first and then try and get Adrian and Christine in and see if they would work.

But at the end of the day this is just another one of those "what if" posts in the biggest "what if" thread on the biggest "what if" forum on the internet.


I agree with you that it was the right decision at the time but if they were serious about getting rid of GMTV they should have tried a completely different format. It had turned back into GMTV within 6 months and with how the show looks now, and the direction it is going in (Lorraine Kelly presenting, Richard Arnold supposedly returning, hassled mums, newshour etc) it makes the entire exercise pointless. What was the point, really? They didn't have enough perseverance to stick it out for the first year or so and backtracked too quickly.


I absolutely agree if they had stuck to the original format when Daybreak launch and made the necessary changes then we might have seen a different outcome. However, bosses freaked out and reverted back to the lighweight format that led to GMTV's demise. Those that are part of the GMTV brigade have always said "if it ain't broke don't fix it" but GMTV was clearly broke and had lost over half its viewing audience in a period of four years. The fundamental problem was ITV's management of the transition between axing of GMTV and launch of Daybreak.. If they managed it through a softer re-launch and had the right presenters before appointing Adrian and Christine the launch could have been more successful (However, everybody is entitled to their own opinion).

I am concerned however, with the news that Richard Arnold is potentially returning and that Daybreak more than likely will take the showbiz route. If they do decide go down that road then ratings will decline further. Last week, on the ratings front Daybreak only averaged 600,000. For a normal school week that is pretty dyer whereas BBC Breakfast has succesfully managed to transition to Salford with ratings of around 1.6 million and increased audience share since the beginning of the month.

I do not buy the idea that a more newsier approach and hassled mums are somehow mutually exclusive. Even housewives with children want to know news, weather and even sport. The last few months Daybreak's format has become progressively worse being more tacky, lightweight, and inconsistent. Even viewers on the show's social networking sites are criticising it on a regular basis.

Even though Daybreak will be moving to studio 3 in the beginning of September what's really frustrating is that they still insist of having a second wall in the current studio. The wall was useful when the mornings where much darker but now it's daylight when the show starts at 6am. I would say that the dark orange wall makes the studio darker compared to the natural daylight from the windows. If they removed the wall and pulled the LED screens back the studio would look so much better.
JB
JasonB
Now would be a good time for The Big Breakfast to come back.
AN
Andrew Founding member
The fundamental problem was ITV's management of the transition between axing of GMTV and launch of Daybreak.. If they managed it through a softer re-launch and had the right presenters before appointing Adrian and Christine the launch could have been more successful (However, everybody is entitled to their own opinion).

If they had done a 'soft launch', how would they have stopped the press coverage, the daily reports of how the ratings were falling/how the presenters are rubbish etc.

All the people who keep saying Daybreak should have stuck to the original format seem to forget the barage of negative press that surrounded it on a daily basis
CA
Cando
Well whatever happens, all the best luck to everyone at ITV Breakfast.


Agreed



All the people who keep saying Daybreak should have stuck to the original format seem to forget the barage of negative press that surrounded it on a daily basis


I agree with this, the only people who liked the original format were tv forumers on here and I think dramamtic year on year falls in audience figures showed that.
Personally I didn't think calling Headlines 'five a day' and showing old you tube clips in 'Daybreakers' was particularly innovative or interesting and I still don't get the fuss and love for the studio Rolling Eyes
BR
Brekkie
I really don't get why they would keep Dan and Kate considering they were both involved in the dying days of GMTV as well as Daybreak. Having Lorraine babysitting them isn't going to make any difference.
CY
cylon6
From The Mirror:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/tv-film-news/daybreak-axed-with-gmtv-style-show-to-replace-809738
CA
Cando
Relaunch wont happen until after the Olympics. So Daybreak will have lasted 2 years.



Quote:


GMTV favourite Richard Arnold is returning to cover showbiz news and gossip.


Rolling Eyes He was never a GMTV favourite , he was one of the things that turned people off GMTV.

Also it says that a new male co host will be hired and that Newshour ''could'' be hosted by either of the current presenters Kate Garraway or Dan Lobb
AC
aconnell
Dan Lobb and news hour are not a good combination, and very doubtful as well IMO. To be frank, I have little faith in what ITV and David Kermode are hoping to come up with in their new programme.

Any guesses as to what it will be called, if they can think of another name?

Absolutely agree about Richard Arnold. He was an instant turn-off, and just 100% reminiscent of GMTV. Steve Hargrave does the job perfectly well, and is much more versatile than Richard Arnold.

What will happen if this doesn't work? Plus, the newspaper article says that they will see these changes as a very "soft launch". I find this completely impossible. Change of presenters, studio and fundamentally content are too many big changes.

Someone try to fill me with some confidence.
JA
jamesrl
This article doesn't give any more information than we know anyway, they have just made it out to be a big headline and thrown it on to the front page. We have learnt nothing more from it and it's pure speculation in my opinion, come on, if they re-introduce the the news hour then they're hardly likely to have Dan Lobb hosting it!
JA
jamesrl
Interestingly, it was meant to be Lucy's last day on the weather yesterday before she moved to itv national weather but she mentioned on her twitter page that things had changed and it was no longer her last day!

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