PL
tellyboxPLUS
so will kate and dan do fridays
MW
I think this is the news area:
http://twitpic.com/2l3rhy/full
Just by that white pillar to the right of that picture.
http://twitpic.com/2l3rhy/full
Just by that white pillar to the right of that picture.
TV
There was that image in full in the daily mail today - over a 2 page spread.
I see the homepage of itv.com is now flanked by these two
http://www.itv.com/documents/jpg/daybreak-background_v2.jpg
And as for cover presenters for Adrian & Christine, if they are from the existing team I can see Grainne Seoige or Kate Garaway covering for Christine, and Dan Lobb for Adrian.
http://www.itv.com/documents/jpg/daybreak-background_v2.jpg
And as for cover presenters for Adrian & Christine, if they are from the existing team I can see Grainne Seoige or Kate Garaway covering for Christine, and Dan Lobb for Adrian.
There was that image in full in the daily mail today - over a 2 page spread.
DI
The countdown clock featured at http://www.itv.com/daybreak/ is being shown on video advertisements at Westfield shopping centre in Shepherd's Bush.
JF
http://twitpic.com/2l3ri4/full
That image would lead me to assume that Kate and Dan are cover for Adrian and Christine (look at the autocue screen)
I take it Adrian and Christine will be introducing each other...
Oh my lord. This really is 'The One Show' Mark II
I would bet on Grainne and Dan as cover. I can't see them wanting Kate as cover, as she was main presenter at GMTV.
GMTV would have faired better if Kate and Ben had the main job four days a week. I can see Dan being better on Daybreak, but was not suited to GMTV. I am glad they doing away with that cosy dark feel that GMTV had. Daybreak should look fresh and open. It really is a magnificent view they have, and hopefully will look even better in HD.
And as for comments about being too London Centric, if you can't display your capitals skyline on a programme such as this, then it really is a worry.
GMTV would have faired better if Kate and Ben had the main job four days a week. I can see Dan being better on Daybreak, but was not suited to GMTV. I am glad they doing away with that cosy dark feel that GMTV had. Daybreak should look fresh and open. It really is a magnificent view they have, and hopefully will look even better in HD.
And as for comments about being too London Centric, if you can't display your capitals skyline on a programme such as this, then it really is a worry.
http://twitpic.com/2l3ri4/full
That image would lead me to assume that Kate and Dan are cover for Adrian and Christine (look at the autocue screen)
Quote:
KATE
Welcome to Daybreak with Dan Lobb
DAN
and Kate Garraway
I take it Adrian and Christine will be introducing each other...
Oh my lord. This really is 'The One Show' Mark II
ST
Oh my lord. This really is 'The One Show' Mark II
I had no idea The One Show had been so innovative - seems they have the patent on just about every aspect of TV presentation right down to "welcome to..." (c) the one show.
Oh my lord. This really is 'The One Show' Mark II
I had no idea The One Show had been so innovative - seems they have the patent on just about every aspect of TV presentation right down to "welcome to..." (c) the one show.
ST
That's right. There is also another desk opposite that one with a largeish screen behind it and two seats - (guessing for sports and ents?? or maybe Adrian and Christine will also use this area?) and then next to that desk there is a free standing white block (terrible description) with 4 screens built in (standing presentation area?). Looks great but looking forward to seeing how it's all utilised on Monday.
I think this is the news area:
http://twitpic.com/2l3rhy/full
Just by that white pillar to the right of that picture.
http://twitpic.com/2l3rhy/full
Just by that white pillar to the right of that picture.
That's right. There is also another desk opposite that one with a largeish screen behind it and two seats - (guessing for sports and ents?? or maybe Adrian and Christine will also use this area?) and then next to that desk there is a free standing white block (terrible description) with 4 screens built in (standing presentation area?). Looks great but looking forward to seeing how it's all utilised on Monday.
NG
That's "Seamless Plasma" - they're effectively plasmas without the normal plastic cases around them, meaning you can get them pretty close together.
They are a lot brighter than most projectors (including Barcos) - you'd have to pay a LOT more for a projector as bright - and they take up a LOT less space and need a lot less maintenance. There are LCD solutions with smaller seams (as used in the BBC Election set for the main big screen I believe) but you can't use LCDs if you are using polarising filters on your cameras. LED is still too coarse-pitch for use in such a small space.
Seamless plasma is probably the only solution, and I think quite a nice solution - with a slight retro edge. If you're going to have lines in your video wall - embrace them, don't try to ignore them (as with Barcos)
If they are plasmas I am surprised they are using a static image on it, how long until the image burns into the screen.
Plasma burn is less of an issue now than it used to be - and if it is switched off for 20 hours a day and displaying a mix of content rather than just a static logo, then I doubt it will be too much of a problem. (You can always route black to it when it isn't in-vision or displaying something moving)
noggin
Founding member
That video wall looks very out-dated, what with the gaps in between the screens. Didn't Sky News look a bit like that pre-2005?
That's "Seamless Plasma" - they're effectively plasmas without the normal plastic cases around them, meaning you can get them pretty close together.
They are a lot brighter than most projectors (including Barcos) - you'd have to pay a LOT more for a projector as bright - and they take up a LOT less space and need a lot less maintenance. There are LCD solutions with smaller seams (as used in the BBC Election set for the main big screen I believe) but you can't use LCDs if you are using polarising filters on your cameras. LED is still too coarse-pitch for use in such a small space.
Seamless plasma is probably the only solution, and I think quite a nice solution - with a slight retro edge. If you're going to have lines in your video wall - embrace them, don't try to ignore them (as with Barcos)
If they are plasmas I am surprised they are using a static image on it, how long until the image burns into the screen.
Plasma burn is less of an issue now than it used to be - and if it is switched off for 20 hours a day and displaying a mix of content rather than just a static logo, then I doubt it will be too much of a problem. (You can always route black to it when it isn't in-vision or displaying something moving)
NG
Off-topic, but I was going to mention that. Presumably, their studio will be kitted out specifically for them, so it will obviously look better, and HD capable.
I would expect any studio now to be HD - particularly as BBC One HD is just round the corner. However I wouldn't assume Breakfast will get a dedicated studio, and I certainly wouldn't expect it to have the staffing that the Daybreak studio will have.
Breakfast has one camera operator on the studio floor, and the rest are all remote controlled - and thus pretty much rooted to the spot - hence the single presentation location. Daybreak has a camera operator for every camera I believe - and thus they can all move quickly to multiple locations in the studio...
Building a studio and set is a one-off cost - the far more significant issue in studios is the staffing costs. Breakfast runs on far fewer studio staff than GMTV did and Daybreak will - it's a much lower cost operation in that regard.
Will the budget be therefore bigger for Breakfast in Salford? I was told that they will move there at least near the end of 2012, so a while yet.
It's difficult to talk of a specific budget for each programme BBC News makes - because things like studios, studio crews, reporters, newsgathering are often paid for centrally - and shared between shows. Breakfast will presumably need to share with somebody to share the running costs of their studio - though whether they can share crew with other shows ?
noggin
Founding member
It just might get that when it moves to Salford 
But the Thames will be replaced with The Manchester ship canal.
But the Thames will be replaced with The Manchester ship canal.
Off-topic, but I was going to mention that. Presumably, their studio will be kitted out specifically for them, so it will obviously look better, and HD capable.
I would expect any studio now to be HD - particularly as BBC One HD is just round the corner. However I wouldn't assume Breakfast will get a dedicated studio, and I certainly wouldn't expect it to have the staffing that the Daybreak studio will have.
Breakfast has one camera operator on the studio floor, and the rest are all remote controlled - and thus pretty much rooted to the spot - hence the single presentation location. Daybreak has a camera operator for every camera I believe - and thus they can all move quickly to multiple locations in the studio...
Building a studio and set is a one-off cost - the far more significant issue in studios is the staffing costs. Breakfast runs on far fewer studio staff than GMTV did and Daybreak will - it's a much lower cost operation in that regard.
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Will the budget be therefore bigger for Breakfast in Salford? I was told that they will move there at least near the end of 2012, so a while yet.
It's difficult to talk of a specific budget for each programme BBC News makes - because things like studios, studio crews, reporters, newsgathering are often paid for centrally - and shared between shows. Breakfast will presumably need to share with somebody to share the running costs of their studio - though whether they can share crew with other shows ?
PL
tellyboxPLUS
Who says it isn't moving anyway? It could be some sort of gently animating thing.
good point I bet the background on the tv change now and then
NG
noggin
Founding member
Incidentally - I wouldn't expect Daybreak to be entirely HD, though the studio cameras will be.
I heard rumblings that the main server/edit infrastructure was remaining SD for the time being, so most " VT" will be SD upconverted, with just some features content being shot HD and edited separately (delivered on tape for playout independently of the server?)
I don't think they're going to be as HD as say - Sky News HD (which has quite a lot of location reports and OBs in HD), or The One Show (which has pretty much entirely HD inserts with the only SD stuff being the OBs and archive content)
I heard rumblings that the main server/edit infrastructure was remaining SD for the time being, so most " VT" will be SD upconverted, with just some features content being shot HD and edited separately (delivered on tape for playout independently of the server?)
I don't think they're going to be as HD as say - Sky News HD (which has quite a lot of location reports and OBs in HD), or The One Show (which has pretty much entirely HD inserts with the only SD stuff being the OBs and archive content)