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Coming September 6th, 2010 (July 2010)

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SE
Square Eyes Founding member
There should just call it the "THE THREE SHOW" it's a pure copy cat of the one show


Thanks for that in depth analysis, perhaps you could reserve judgement until at least 1 minute of the show has gone to air. Rolling Eyes
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A former member
There should just call it the "THE THREE SHOW" it's a pure copy cat of the one show


Thanks for that in depth analysis, perhaps you could reserve judgement until at least 1 minute of the show has gone to air. Rolling Eyes


well Im entitled to my First option, thank you, and from what I so on the ITN news was copy cat of the one show. expect the seats are purple...
TM
Telly Media
I'm with Square Eyes - think it's a little rash to dismiss Daybreak before its even gone on air!
SE
Square Eyes Founding member
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NG
noggin Founding member
If their song on a friday closes the show, you'll know they'll have some ex Big Breakfast production crew working there! Laughing


The Deputy Editor of Daybreak, who was formerly a Senior Producer on The One Show, and has been referred to as "Adrian's comfort blanket" in the press, worked on The Big Breakfast...
NG
noggin Founding member
chris posted:
That video wall looks very out-dated, what with the gaps in between the screens. Didn't Sky News look a bit like that pre-2005?


That's "Seamless Plasma" - they're effectively plasmas without the normal plastic cases around them, meaning you can get them pretty close together.

They are a lot brighter than most projectors (including Barcos) - you'd have to pay a LOT more for a projector as bright - and they take up a LOT less space and need a lot less maintenance. There are LCD solutions with smaller seams (as used in the BBC Election set for the main big screen I believe) but you can't use LCDs if you are using polarising filters on your cameras. LED is still too coarse-pitch for use in such a small space.

Seamless plasma is probably the only solution, and I think quite a nice solution - with a slight retro edge. If you're going to have lines in your video wall - embrace them, don't try to ignore them (as with Barcos)
NG
noggin Founding member

I probably won't be the most enthusiastic about this new show, but it does make you feel: I wish BBC Breakfast would make a bit more effort.


I'm sure the Breakfast team would love £1.5million to make some effort with - and a fully crewed studio with fully manned cameras and no requirement to re-set for Newsnight, Newsround, Hardtalk, The Politics Show and the Andrew Marr Show between their shows (with only two or so people to physically do it). They have a standing set just for their show 2.5 hour daily show - the BBC have to use the same studio for a lot more than 2.5 hours day, and have to run their studios with far fewer people.

Daybreak are very sensibly putting their money on the screen - and they have a lot more of it than Breakfast.

They have clearly looked at what Breakfast CAN'T do - and done it...
AC
aconnell
They have clearly looked at what Breakfast CAN'T do - and done it...


I stand by Breakfast, which has much more credible journalism. I think a sticking point to Daybreak is fundamentally the presenters. They lack any real experience or crudentials in news. I feel Christine will really struggle with serious interviews with politicians, and handling breaking news, say on wars and conflicts etc.
NG
noggin Founding member
They have clearly looked at what Breakfast CAN'T do - and done it...


I stand by Breakfast, which has much more credible journalism. I think a sticking point to Daybreak is fundamentally the presenters. They lack any real experience or crudentials in news.


I'm not criticising Breakfast at all. I think Bill and Sian are past-masters at handling serious breaking news and the lighter post-8.30 stuff. They're both very experienced journalists and very watchable presenters.

However Adrian is also very strong journalistically - he has bags of FiveLive experience behind him, and hours of Working Lunch gave him huge experience of serious stuff. Yep it was financial - but it was still most definitely decent journalism. (And I suspect he can spot bogus stats a mile off as a result - which many other presenters and journos don't - happily trotting out percentage and risk stats with no clue whether they are true and no understanding as to what they mean)

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I feel Christine will really struggle with serious interviews with politicians, and handling breaking news, say on wars and conflicts etc.


I don't see Christine struggling at all when she's with Adrian. He asks questions of one sort, Christine has always been brilliant at asking the questions that reconnect with the audience - "the questions you'd have asked" etc. Christine and Adrian interviewed all the main party leaders on The One Show - and none of their interviews were embarassing.

I'd be much more worried about Tasmin Lucia Khan than Christine if I were at Daybreak. Let's hope she's just asked to read an autocue and not do anything more...
BN
Breakfast News
They have clearly looked at what Breakfast CAN'T do - and done it...


I stand by Breakfast, which has much more credible journalism. I think a sticking point to Daybreak is fundamentally the presenters. They lack any real experience or crudentials in news. I feel Christine will really struggle with serious interviews with politicians, and handling breaking news, say on wars and conflicts etc.


They? Nah, Christine lacks news, Adrian is a proper journalist afterall, as the decade plus on Working Lunch showed....he handled a fair variety of things on that!
LO
LONDON
chris posted:
That video wall looks very out-dated, what with the gaps in between the screens. Didn't Sky News look a bit like that pre-2005?


That's "Seamless Plasma" - they're effectively plasmas without the normal plastic cases around them, meaning you can get them pretty close together.

They are a lot brighter than most projectors (including Barcos) - you'd have to pay a LOT more for a projector as bright - and they take up a LOT less space and need a lot less maintenance. There are LCD solutions with smaller seams (as used in the BBC Election set for the main big screen I believe) but you can't use LCDs if you are using polarising filters on your cameras. LED is still too coarse-pitch for use in such a small space.

Seamless plasma is probably the only solution, and I think quite a nice solution - with a slight retro edge. If you're going to have lines in your video wall - embrace them, don't try to ignore them (as with Barcos)


If they are plasmas I am surprised they are using a static image on it, how long until the image burns into the screen.
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A former member
I'm with Square Eyes - think it's a little rash to dismiss Daybreak before its even gone on air!


I never dismiss the show, all I said was it looks just like the one show.

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