KA
The other "feats" (Vertigo, Frozen in Time and the buried one) weren't tricks either - there was no need as they were all things a relatively fit person could do if they had the will, and a reason.
they were actually - I saw a programme about how the 'frozen in time' one worked... Uri Geller's almost wetting himself over this latest one.... Uri Geller must be a 'nutter magnet'; first Michael Jackson and now David Blaine....
Katherine
Founding member
Gareth Attrill posted:
The other "feats" (Vertigo, Frozen in Time and the buried one) weren't tricks either - there was no need as they were all things a relatively fit person could do if they had the will, and a reason.
they were actually - I saw a programme about how the 'frozen in time' one worked... Uri Geller's almost wetting himself over this latest one.... Uri Geller must be a 'nutter magnet'; first Michael Jackson and now David Blaine....
SE
But when he is suspended above the air in a perspex box it is either him or it isn't. So what are you saying, it's a robotic dummy, somebody else, or a trick of the light ?
Square Eyes
Founding member
Whataday posted:
He is an illusionist. Nothing more, nothing less.
When he brought a fly back from the dead, it had been frozen beforehand. When he put a cigarette through a coin, it was a specially made coin. He did not cut his ear off at this week's press conference, just as he didn't rip his heart out on an American chat show.
When he brought a fly back from the dead, it had been frozen beforehand. When he put a cigarette through a coin, it was a specially made coin. He did not cut his ear off at this week's press conference, just as he didn't rip his heart out on an American chat show.
But when he is suspended above the air in a perspex box it is either him or it isn't. So what are you saying, it's a robotic dummy, somebody else, or a trick of the light ?
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The other "feats" (Vertigo, Frozen in Time and the buried one) weren't tricks either - there was no need as they were all things a relatively fit person could do if they had the will, and a reason.
...but the tricks you mention have been exposed as just that - tricks! He didn't stay in a block of ice for three days, nor did he stay on a pole for ages and then leap off.
If he's still in the box on day 44 he'll make sure there are helicopters and ambulances and all sorts to make a scene.
What annoys me is that he approached the Guiniss Book of records to get his name entered! The cheek of it - it's all a trick. Luckily, they refused to enter him.
I've just seen the perspex box, and it's huge! I was expecting a glass coffin... but no, it's like a big room! Plenty of space for tricks to happen. The first two weeks he may go without food - I'll grant him that. Then week three it will become boring and he'll munch some secret hamburgers. Then he'll have a full stomach to survive on when the hype builds towards the "danger zone" ... well, that's my theory.
Just a thought... but he could organise an act of mild terrorism (like a huge explosion close by) which will make all his observers look away for a second... much like the "look over there... Shazam!" clip on Bo' Selecta.
Perhaps he will drink water filled with glucose and vitamins, then, whilst asleep (with his head under his pillow
) he will eat crisps... and then there's that new chemical which makes you feel full even when you haven't eaten much.
It says on BBCi that he gets to take lipbalm with him - perhaps he'll scoff that. I've just seen coverage on the ITV News Channel, and at night it seems they turn the big strobe lights off and some little lights in the perspex box are switched on... I think this will be where a switch / mirror trick will take place.
A former member
Gareth Attrill posted:
The other "feats" (Vertigo, Frozen in Time and the buried one) weren't tricks either - there was no need as they were all things a relatively fit person could do if they had the will, and a reason.
...but the tricks you mention have been exposed as just that - tricks! He didn't stay in a block of ice for three days, nor did he stay on a pole for ages and then leap off.
If he's still in the box on day 44 he'll make sure there are helicopters and ambulances and all sorts to make a scene.
What annoys me is that he approached the Guiniss Book of records to get his name entered! The cheek of it - it's all a trick. Luckily, they refused to enter him.
I've just seen the perspex box, and it's huge! I was expecting a glass coffin... but no, it's like a big room! Plenty of space for tricks to happen. The first two weeks he may go without food - I'll grant him that. Then week three it will become boring and he'll munch some secret hamburgers. Then he'll have a full stomach to survive on when the hype builds towards the "danger zone" ... well, that's my theory.
Just a thought... but he could organise an act of mild terrorism (like a huge explosion close by) which will make all his observers look away for a second... much like the "look over there... Shazam!" clip on Bo' Selecta.
Perhaps he will drink water filled with glucose and vitamins, then, whilst asleep (with his head under his pillow
) he will eat crisps... and then there's that new chemical which makes you feel full even when you haven't eaten much.
It says on BBCi that he gets to take lipbalm with him - perhaps he'll scoff that. I've just seen coverage on the ITV News Channel, and at night it seems they turn the big strobe lights off and some little lights in the perspex box are switched on... I think this will be where a switch / mirror trick will take place.
BR
I can't imagine the local authorities giving him permission to organise an act of terrorism, however small or simulated.
I think the clue is in the uneccessaries - why would the guy bring lip balm? Surely he can survive chapped lips if he's prepared to risk organ failure!
The action of applying lip balm could be a good opportunity for using sleight of hand to put food in his mouth, and then the cover the action of chewing with over-complicated (ever seen a woman apply lip balm? this is what I mean) application of said lip-balm.
Plus there's all sorts of things that could be put in the water.
Hopefully cyanide will be one of them.
I think the clue is in the uneccessaries - why would the guy bring lip balm? Surely he can survive chapped lips if he's prepared to risk organ failure!
The action of applying lip balm could be a good opportunity for using sleight of hand to put food in his mouth, and then the cover the action of chewing with over-complicated (ever seen a woman apply lip balm? this is what I mean) application of said lip-balm.
Plus there's all sorts of things that could be put in the water.
Hopefully cyanide will be one of them.
PE
The other "feats" (Vertigo, Frozen in Time and the buried one) weren't tricks either - there was no need as they were all things a relatively fit person could do if they had the will, and a reason.
they were actually - I saw a programme about how the 'frozen in time' one worked... Uri Geller's almost wetting himself over this latest one.... Uri Geller must be a 'nutter magnet'; first Michael Jackson and now David Blaine....
I think Jacko and Blaine are attracting the nutter.
I can't stand Blaine - that stupid performance on GMTV proved what a moron he is.
I was under the impression he's be in some sort of coffin aswell - not this great big bungalow they've put him in. He is an amazing magicion though - the ability to drum up loads of publicity from nowhere is quite a skill.
Pete
Founding member
Katherine posted:
Gareth Attrill posted:
The other "feats" (Vertigo, Frozen in Time and the buried one) weren't tricks either - there was no need as they were all things a relatively fit person could do if they had the will, and a reason.
they were actually - I saw a programme about how the 'frozen in time' one worked... Uri Geller's almost wetting himself over this latest one.... Uri Geller must be a 'nutter magnet'; first Michael Jackson and now David Blaine....
I think Jacko and Blaine are attracting the nutter.
I can't stand Blaine - that stupid performance on GMTV proved what a moron he is.
I was under the impression he's be in some sort of coffin aswell - not this great big bungalow they've put him in. He is an amazing magicion though - the ability to drum up loads of publicity from nowhere is quite a skill.
:-(
A former member
Well he certainly has made magic popular again - he's brought back the sparkle which seemed to have been lost long ago. Houdini would attract loads of people with his stunts and Blaine does the same.
The 'moron' act is wearing a little bit thin though.
Also - what is it with Uri Gellar? He's as mad as Blaine for insisting he is psycic and can bend spoons with his mind.
The 'moron' act is wearing a little bit thin though.
Also - what is it with Uri Gellar? He's as mad as Blaine for insisting he is psycic and can bend spoons with his mind.
PE
especially when the scientist "magic-proofed" a studio and Uri was unable to perform anything. heh.
The problem with Blaine is he lost all credibility when all the "outtakes" of his TV shows were shown proving that the street magic really wasn't as impressive as it looked on TV - still good but the TV made it look much better than it was.
Pete
Founding member
chrisb posted:
Well he certainly has made magic popular again - he's brought back the sparkle which seemed to have been lost long ago. Houdini would attract loads of people with his stunts and Blaine does the same.
The 'moron' act is wearing a little bit thin though.
Also - what is it with Uri Gellar? He's as mad as Blaine for insisting he is psycic and can bend spoons with his mind.
The 'moron' act is wearing a little bit thin though.
Also - what is it with Uri Gellar? He's as mad as Blaine for insisting he is psycic and can bend spoons with his mind.
especially when the scientist "magic-proofed" a studio and Uri was unable to perform anything. heh.
The problem with Blaine is he lost all credibility when all the "outtakes" of his TV shows were shown proving that the street magic really wasn't as impressive as it looked on TV - still good but the TV made it look much better than it was.
:-(
The other "feats" (Vertigo, Frozen in Time and the buried one) weren't tricks either - there was no need as they were all things a relatively fit person could do if they had the will, and a reason.
...but the tricks you mention have been exposed as just that - tricks! He didn't stay in a block of ice for three days, nor did he stay on a pole for ages and then leap off.
No, like all their exposés they are POSSIBLE ways it COULD be done. I haven't seen the "frozen in time" version, but apparently the magician slips into an underground box while they pour liquid nitrogen on the ice to "cool it" and mask his disappearance.
What they fail to mention is that in Blaine's stunt they only used liquid nitrogen once to seal the ice at the very beginning and then had five cameras broadcasting 24/7 on ifilm.com and thousands of people around him in Times Square NY. The "ice tomb" was also sitting on an 18" high platform which anybody could see right under, and there was hard paving on the ground underneath.
I didn't see the Vertigo exposé but but how difficult is it to stand still on a high platform for 36hrs? The platform is pretty big, all you need is strong legs and a lot of practice to make sure you don't fall!
Unfortunately because he is a magician he has a real problem convincing people these stunts are real, however he could do more to make sure they are scrupulously monitored by indepedant people.
By the way, the fly trick is easy - just freeze your fly, put it on a car in the shade, call somebody over quickly and pick it up - the heat from your hand "revives" it!
The levitation trick is old and easy (it's called Balducci). Position yourself so that you can just see your audience when looking over your left shoulder (they must be tightly together in a group). Raise your body on your right foot, but keeping the rear of your shoes together. Your left foot should hide the front your right foot from where your audience is standing - the effect is very convincing! On the TV shows they don't show him actually doing it - they re-shoot it with him hanging from wires
Gareth
A former member
chrisb posted:
Gareth Attrill posted:
The other "feats" (Vertigo, Frozen in Time and the buried one) weren't tricks either - there was no need as they were all things a relatively fit person could do if they had the will, and a reason.
...but the tricks you mention have been exposed as just that - tricks! He didn't stay in a block of ice for three days, nor did he stay on a pole for ages and then leap off.
No, like all their exposés they are POSSIBLE ways it COULD be done. I haven't seen the "frozen in time" version, but apparently the magician slips into an underground box while they pour liquid nitrogen on the ice to "cool it" and mask his disappearance.
What they fail to mention is that in Blaine's stunt they only used liquid nitrogen once to seal the ice at the very beginning and then had five cameras broadcasting 24/7 on ifilm.com and thousands of people around him in Times Square NY. The "ice tomb" was also sitting on an 18" high platform which anybody could see right under, and there was hard paving on the ground underneath.
I didn't see the Vertigo exposé but but how difficult is it to stand still on a high platform for 36hrs? The platform is pretty big, all you need is strong legs and a lot of practice to make sure you don't fall!
Unfortunately because he is a magician he has a real problem convincing people these stunts are real, however he could do more to make sure they are scrupulously monitored by indepedant people.
By the way, the fly trick is easy - just freeze your fly, put it on a car in the shade, call somebody over quickly and pick it up - the heat from your hand "revives" it!
The levitation trick is old and easy (it's called Balducci). Position yourself so that you can just see your audience when looking over your left shoulder (they must be tightly together in a group). Raise your body on your right foot, but keeping the rear of your shoes together. Your left foot should hide the front your right foot from where your audience is standing - the effect is very convincing! On the TV shows they don't show him actually doing it - they re-shoot it with him hanging from wires
Gareth
CA
Christ, what I would give to see Chris Rogers suspended over the river in a plastic box for 44 days.
Personally, I hope Blaine comes out of there either retarded or dead. This is not magic, this is him saying "Look at me aren't I great".
No, you're a p****.
And what's with his boyfriend?
ohwhatanight posted:
Chris Rogers got the tone of the piece quite right and was taking the mickey out of him.
Christ, what I would give to see Chris Rogers suspended over the river in a plastic box for 44 days.
Personally, I hope Blaine comes out of there either retarded or dead. This is not magic, this is him saying "Look at me aren't I great".
No, you're a p****.
And what's with his boyfriend?