Identify the correct year for the Pres.

The BBC Cambridge studio set-up in 1996, for launch in Jan 1997, had some ex-Lime Grove kit

Some of the early colour kit was appalling quality - just look at the early colour Corrie. YTV probably saw an opportunity to offload it and get a nice set of EMI2000s instead.

Watching on the Network DVDs, it's only the very early colour episodes (especially the first- which looks like when you turned the colour knob on the TV up to full) that look really bad, presumably they hadn't properly got the hang of the equipment. It looks not that bad by early 1970.

Did Every ITV company have a copy of the 1989 Children's ITV ident? Did all of them use it?

Interesting. I thought it was only used for the 4pm CITV strand itself.

YTV evidently had their own copy and used it to introduce certain kids shows. I don’t think Tyne Tees ever used it in this way.

Its documented that Thames at least had their own copy (either a copy of an off-air recording) of the sting used in 1992 as there are (or were) videos probably on YouTube showing them opting out of the network on Fridays in order to show a cartoon after the 4:40pm programme on the network. Presumably this was to facilitate the 5:15pm handover.

Whether this was the case in previous years I can't say but I'm pretty sure some (but not all) of the ITV Saturday morning programmes used the CITV idents of the time prior to titles and they didn't all come from Birmingham, unless they were sent there as OBs and relayed via Central? but that sounds like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut scenario and it would have been far easier just for TVS to send Motormouth to the network itself, surely? So they'd have probably had a copy of the CITV ident even if its just for local presentation I'd have thought. Whether they used it is another matter - Central often used to use its own idents for children's programming outside of CITV.

Here is Thames to LWT handover, which come back in around Aug 1992. ( before that from 1989 - 92 Home and away crossover the slot )

There still a chance there were all sent it. I doubt the five companies who dislike the ITV brand would have used that CITV ident. Grampian just used Invision, So that leaves: STV, Border, TT, Granada HTV?

...and a very rare example of LWT acknowledging the Thames handover!

I'd have thought that the Children's ITV ident would have just been sent to all the regions with the kit of parts with the rest of the branding

There were ITV Drama and ITV Sport idents too., probably just on the tape with them

I do recall YTV doing this quite often. As you say TT never did, if they had 10 seconds to fill they'd just do a couple of birthdays in-vision to fill the time (running animated idents in general other than before the news was very rare for them -- although they did use the ITV Drama one, generally without announcement).

There were 35 idents used for Carlton Second set from 1994 until 95. Four were montages.

Does anyone know or remember which ones had two versions? I would say at least five of these had additional version made....?

ONE Version?
*(Bell Ringers) The Sound In Brass
*Belly Dancers
*Bodybuilders
*Gymnast
*London Zoo
*Martial Arts
*Pantomime Cow
*Pizza Thrower
*Removal Men
*Sign Fitter
*Stunt Woman
*Tiddlywinks Players
*Woman Rugby Players
*Window Cleaners

FYI the following did have at least two versions:
* Cheerleaders
* Hospital team
* Magicaions
* Chinese Dragons
* Escapologist
* Potter

This is a tad strange



Yet this clip from late August has Nothing of the cake: Im sure there was a clip on YT from august 85 but does this mean Cake actually appeared on 3rd September 1985?