Identify the correct year for the Pres.

Revised Granada LIST T

* Still Granada Ident: 1970 - UNTIL Aug 1986. ( it was updated with a computer version in 1984) This continued to be used as a Front and End cap until 1989.

* In September "1984" the Granada Logo was updated, but not used for idents at first. The G symbol was made bolder and become slanted, and appeared for presentation and continuity and then finally idents, and was still being used by December 1986
* Addition Birthday ident: around May 1986 - 30 years of broadcast. since 1956
* GOLD Still: 1st September 1986 ? Reaplce by
* Silver/chrome ident: At least August 1987? Replace by

1989:
* Addition ident: Green-yellow ident. March, April and May 1989

* Sunny Cloudy Sky ident with IBA music: Around June and used until December 1989:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n88JOmRleCU

* woman walking up a road, with a sky background version of the ident Autumn 1989 - early 1990
* hybrid ITV ident used during 1989.
* Yellow G on water: Early Jan 1990

* White ident with blue box ‘Stripe’ : Within first two weeks in June 1990, replaced by October 1991 with the blue one.

We are now moving on to Carlton Stars:

TV ark has 11 idents: http://www2.tv-ark.org.uk/itvlondon/carlton-idents4.html is that the full set of main idents?

Main one I can see missing there are the New Year idents for 2001 and 2002. Both used the Millennium ident as a basis but changed the last digit of the year - the 2001 one can be seen at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFZ-DFjePqo and the 2002 one I encoded a few years back.

The one labelled "Corporate News Drama" was used very rarely and usually only on sombre occasions, particularly for a few days after 9/11. "Daytime No Strawberry" was withdrawn in about 2001, and the Christmas idents were re-used in 2000 and 2001. Although Carlton were deeply hated on this forum and others at the time - mostly for getting rid of Central/Westcountry - that set of idents were brilliant, and a shame when they were withdrawn for the dull generic celebrity idents.

Cheers.

Those Carlton idents were fantastic. This is probably my favourite:

It may just be a case of different recollections, but the above ident seemed to be played out fairly frequently in the Midlands - and was certainly one of my favourites.

What exactly was the point of "Daytime No Strawberry"?

"Corporate News Drama" was the one with the gold background and black heart. Elsewhere it has been referred to as Eclipse or Sunset but I believe its correct name is Planet. It was very rarely played in any of the regions, and had several outings around 9/11 and when the Queen Mother died. It was also the last ident used by HTV which ended with a red background rather than the usual blue.

I always preferred the HTV variants of the hearts.

According to TV Ark, a shorter version of "Corporate News Drama" was the last ident that HTV used on 27th October 2002. Strangely, it also apparently went out with a red background and without the ITV1 logo or web address:

http://hub.tv-ark.org.uk/images/itv_wales_west/wales_west_images/htv_wales_continuity/htvlast271002a.jpg

http://www2.tv-ark.org.uk/itv_wales_west/htvwales_idents.html

Yes funnily enough I just referred to that in my post above but we cross-posted.

Basically they weren't allowed to do any tributes along the lines of LWT and were meant to let it go without any mention whatsoever. The ident was played as a very subtle and typically defiant-with-a-small-d goodbye to HTV.

I saw your post but I completely missed your sentence on the last ident, sorry!

It's certainly a subtle way of saying goodbye, at least they managed to do something for it on air unlike most regions, even if it is something as subtle as what they did.

IIRC HTV West, Carlton Westcountry, Anglia and Meridian were the only regions that didn't acknowledge the last day of on air regional branding. All Granada North regions, Bob Preedy signed off for good and acknowledged change in the morning, as I did believe something similar on Carlton Central.