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A former member
Main reason why it dated 1994, is ITV logo was taken off the idents in 1994
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Johnny83
Main reason why it dated 1994, is ITV logo was taken off the idents in 1994


The ITV 1989 logo never appeared on the 1994 ident to my knowledge, only the 1992 one for network programming.
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Does Anyone remember this LWT IDENt? from 1995 Does anyone know when it first appeared?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=AJut-XY_Eig#t=30s
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Mr Kite
I must say, I've never seen this Border ident from 1991 before...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0peP3dlfHE
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A former member
I must say, I've never seen this Border ident from 1991 before...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0peP3dlfHE


It come form a Network promo package and All Border did was stick its name on it. SORRY to the person that give us this details. Were still unsure when it first come in and when it got dumped:


Further to Col post, here is an STILL ident with nothing but the Cheron from Jan 1990.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bqd8GhkbTwc#t=235s

This is getting confusing..............
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Colm
That YTV variant ident was still in use in August 1993 (0'33" in):



This particular variant was taken from the original 1989 ident, as there's a subtle difference in the kerning on the ITV generic font (that variant of Palatino Bold Italic) between the "chevron in a V" and the "flying chevron" idents:

http://tv-live.org.uk/wp/media/inthepast/ytv/22.jpg

http://tv-live.org.uk/wp/media/inthepast/ytv/25.jpg
(Images from TV Live)
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A former member
So it was changed in 1991, but when it question.
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A former member
This just leaves us with TWO HTV idents and YTV, LWT and Anglia ...anyways

When in 1987: ITS AFTER 1st JUNE that for sure!

* There is a clip of the old ident in uses in July 1987
* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WO8BAq2jz8 August 87
* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCNBQxvl9kI September 87
* New Look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4HDncZYMls Novermber 87, YET that awful clock is still in use....

http://tv-live.org.uk/wp/media/inthepast/htv/14.jpg

When in 1995 did it appear?
http://tv-live.org.uk/wp/media/inthepast/htv/31.jpg[/quote]
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A former member
UPDATED: Cheers to everyone with the new details: were still looking for a few points:

I just CANT believe this has NEVER been done before...................................

NOW BEEN UPDATED, NOT NIGHTIME, see wiki page for full correct details! This list does not included Special one offs...

Anglia
* Knight ident from start to 1988
* Flag come in, 21st March 1988: WE THINK
* June 1999 ITV logo was added

Border
* First Ident from Start Until 1989 Word Border Televison
* Second Ident, 1 September 1989
* An additional idnet was also used: which come from an ITV promo from 1990/1991 with Word Border Televison added.
* 1st Jan 1993, Pink ident featuring a background of pastel colours. The music was retained from the generic look. Border also began to use in-vision continuity more heavily.
* 4th ident: Plain light blue slate one was in place in August, The two moving blue ones were introduced on 1st September 1995 and replaced the light blue slate one. used until 7th November 1998

IVC on Border at weekends was dropped in October 1998 and on weekdays with effect from 8 November 1999,

Central
Its believe In ealry 1983 more colourful moon was used as front/end cap for TV shows
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GpwyVvZyRk Autumn 1983 S3 Bullseye
More information needed.

*The cake is introduced
The "one to watch" launched around August 1985 for continuity purposes only with some junctions still using announcers in-vision. At this time, the ordinary Central ident was still being used at the start of programmes. It looked a bit odd linking from the cake to the globe, but it did happen. The networked cake production animation started in 1988 and lasted for around 12 months when it was decided by the network that only static prod caps were to be used. We obviously kept the animated cake locally. Hope this is helpful. By the way, the Central presentation caption for acquired programming was replaced with a Central cake end ident.

* Cake was dropped: Last Central idents started on 20 April 1998 using the word central instead of the cake.
* Carlton replaced Central idents on 6 September 1999

Carlton
* first Ident January 1, 1993 shortly after midnight.
* Second ident started on 4th September 1995
* Third Ident started on Monday 25th November 1996

Grampian
* Grampian "In Colour" ident 1971 - 1976
* Dark Blue Ident used from 1977 - 1980, ( from 1980 - 1983 was used into News at ten )
* Black Ident 1980-85. ( from 1980 - 1983 was NOT USED into News at ten )
* first Computer Generated April 1985
* ITV ident 1 Sept 1989 until Sunday, 4th October 1998 NOTE most of the time INVision CA was used
* Full-screen St Andrews Cross: Monday 5th or Wednesday 7th October 1998 - 27th Feb 2000
*Shattering glass" ident was introduced in the second week of October 1998 as a direct replacement for the animation used during the previous week
* Blue Squares: Monday 28th February 2000
* Celeb idents 6th January 2003

HTV
* Harlech 4th March 1968
* Arial 1970 - 1987
* 3rd HTV ident ?? September 1987 - 1989
* ITV ident: 1st September 1989 - dec 31st 1992
NOTE There were two:
~ Standard one:
~ HTV pertinently static with music playing with the " HTV ( west/wales) " sweeping in from the left to center of the screen.
* 4th HTV ident: 1st January 1993 - xmas 1994 Deep blue ident
* 5th Ident: ?? Januray 1995 - 7th March 1999 UNKNOWN START DATE wavey ident
* 6th IDENT 8th March 1999 – 7 November 1999 Yellow ident
* 7th Granada Hearts: November 8th 1999 - 1st July 01
* 8th Calrton Stars: Monday 2nd July 2001 - 2002

London Weekend Television
Start: Word London weekend television:
* In 1969 pound Coin
* In 1971 First LWT River ident "London Weekend " ( still in use in spring, plus DAVID BOWIE "Weekend show had this ident at the star of it show for broadcast on (09/07/1978)
* in 1978 updated LWT river ident " London Weekend Television" C September 1978

* LWT dropped in-vision announcers in January 1983, and in September that year introduced a new local, animated ident, bearing the slogan 'Your Weekend ITV' for voice announcements
* Addition ident appeared in 1984 " revolving '3D' logo LWT " used along with 1978 and 1983 ident . until 1986.

* On 29th August 1986 first Computer Ident, Long and short version of both
~Genesis, in which the stripes fold on letter by letter,:
~Solari, a vertical venetian blind effect seen in the London region only.
~Kids version of kids programmes of course!

* On 1st September 1989 ITV ident ( NOTE the 86 ident bought back for into into Local show in 90-92)
* On 4th September 1992,
~ flying blocks'
~ 'flare"
ITV branding was dropped from both these idents in 1994

* 1995 "LONDON WEEKEND" with voice of Peter Lewis: ?????
* On 30 August 1996, updated IDENT proof http://www.designweek.co.uk/news/lwt-airs-new-logo-and-idents/1102781.article there made 5/6 different vertaions
* Hearts ident: 8 November 8th 1999
* Firewall: 24 March 2000, , with an updated version on 11/08/01.

Meridian
1st Jan 1993 Meridian's original ident
2nd ident September 1996, featuring purple colours. There were two versions
3rd ident was replaced in autumn 1998
* ITV logo added to ident in June 1999
4th: 8th November 1999, Initially Meridian continued to use their 1998 yellow ident alongside the new set, usually only before regional programming.

Scottish Television
# 1965-1985 you can thank MR STV! for these
An animated ident was introduced by 1965 in which the lion would spin inside a box , though this later modified as a simple zoom in following, according to some reports, a complaint from The Lord Lyon King of Arms, the man in charge of protecting Scotland's heraldry When colour began the lion continued to zoom but in pale blue. After the start of colour broadcasting, the lion rampant symbol was replaced within a year by a stylised 'STV' logo, which during its 15 year rein, change very little. The First version showed a zooming STV, by mid 70s it was updated with the letter comforming into the centre to make "STV". Throughout the 70s until 1985, this stylised was used as either a static caption, or form up from a pattered design that was supposed to represent tartan. Accompanying the look was a clock against a blue background with the white STV logo forming a pattern across the screen. The station's first theme was a specially composed piece by Geraldo entitled Scotlandia, which began each day's broadcasting - the theme continued to be heard until August 1985, this was accompanied At the climax by a slowly rotating '3D' STV 'illuminated name block' appeared. The 3D idents were usually produced from actual moving model

# 1985-2000
On 31 August 1985 new Computer ident "Thistle" appeared
A new 2D identity which would remain in use until February 2000, under various guises. Scottish did use the ITV Generic look in 1989 but only last a few months before being completely dropped.
Dark blue Thistle: January 1989 - December 1992
ITV ident was used between 1st September - nov/dec
Purple Thistle: 1st January 1993 - 3 Nov 1996
light blue/sky thistle: 4th November 1996 to 27 February 2000

* 28 February 2000 Blue Squares
* 7 January 2003, when Scottish and Grampian adopted the celebrity idents package, albeit with their own logos attached and also featuring Scottish and Grampian presenters. The package was never updated unlike ITV version which was took place in September 2003. but STV did take sky ident in 2004 for use into the lunchtime news.

Thames
* First day Ident: FROM THAMES' written in white in the Helvetica font 'Salute to Thames', composed by Johnny Hawkesworth.

2nd Thames ident in 1968:
* Black and white Sky line,
* in 1969 a new colour sky line ident come into use:
* A second colour version of the ident came into use from 1976,
* digital re-make of the ident, during 1986

* XXI' Ident, summer 1989 for its 21st birthday

* 4th September ITV ident Thames started on a monday!

In September 1990 New logo appeared:
* ITV ident which was updated with the new logo
* New skyline ident was introduce regional programming for London. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMyeVfpUlmI which different audio and was only used before local shows
* October 1991. of the local ident with Revised music, ident was used for all junctions and programmes.

TVS
1st ident appeared 1st January 1982
2nd Ident appeared on 7 September 1987.
3rd ident appeared on Autumn 1989

* TSW
* Launch identity on January 1, 1982, a
* Second Ident appeared in May 1985
* Seasonal idents: In September 1989, the station instead chose to launch seasonal idents which would continue to be utilized, alongside the 1986 ident, until it went off air in 1992.

Tyne Tees
* First Colour Ident: 1969 - 79
* On 24 October 1979, the ident was modified once more to remove the word colour and to give it a more dynamic form up.
* On 5 September 1988, "Flowing Rivers"
* On Friday 1 September 1989 Tyne Tees adopted the 1989 ITV generic look.
* Tyne Tees abandoned it in May 1991. for blocky glass version, with 89 music
* Updated version on Monday 6th January 1992 - Colourful blocky glass with 89 music
* ANOTHER one: white background No idea when used in 1992: May - October 1992

* Monday 5th October 1992 : The silver TTTV ident
* Monday 2nd September 1996 Channel 3 ident: ended 8th March 1998
* Monday 9th March 1998 - 8 November 1998

From September 1993 until 1996 when the pres department closed completely, for 99% of all programmes IVC or a static slide were used. The generic ident were replaced with ones produced by Tyne Tees.

Yorkshire
* 1969: Yorkshire TV in colour
* Jan 1982 Updated version with "colour" Dropped and updated String

# 1983: version of the Serving 6 Million Viewers animation.
# 1986 Serving 6 Million Viewers slogan from space.
# Programme slides were used into most programmes expect the news


* Jan 1987:
~ Liquid Gold ident
~ revolving chevron
~except before programmes produced by YTV - they were still introduced over a slide, probably because they didn't want to crash two chevron logos - YTV still showed the frontcaps if present on the tapes (Si-Co)

* Friday 1st 1989, Yorkshire Television adopted the first ITV generic look
~ Standard version
~ Static version with the Chevron in the middle

* 2 September 1991 It was changed to show LARGE Chevron instead of the ITV Logo at the end.
* New ident where the LARGE Chevron appeared at the end instead of ITV along with NEW font for Yorkshire television
~Static version with the Chevron in the middle from 1989 was kept:
Last edited by A former member on 18 March 2013 2:34pm - 14 times in total
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A former member
Missing:

GTV:
Did new Blue cross Grampian Ident come into use in September 1998, the same time as the new ITV ident come in but not used on screen on the itv network.

HTV:
HTV 1987 and 1995 ident: did the yellow ident hit the bucket in Nover 1999? Granada never bough the station until 2000.

YTV:
In 1984 revolving chevron was introduced When in 1984 was this? Did it replace the non revolving one?
JO
Johnny83


London Weekend Television
Start: Word London weekend television:
* In 1969 pound Coin
* In 1971 First LWT River ident "London Weekend " ( still in use in spring, plus DAVID BOWIE "Weekend show had this ident at the star of it show for broadcast on (09/07/1978)
* in 1978 updated LWT river ident " London Weekend Television" C September 1978
* LWT dropped in-vision announcers in January 1983, and in September that year introduced a new local, animated ident, bearing the slogan 'Your Weekend ITV' for voice announcements
* On 29th August 1986 first Computer Ident, Long and short version of both
~Genesis, in which the stripes fold on letter by letter,:
~Solari, a vertical venetian blind effect seen in the London region only.
~Kids version of kids programmes of course!

* On 1st September 1989 ITV ident ( NOTE the 86 ident bought back for into into Local show in 90-92)
* On 4th September 1992,
~ flying blocks'
~ 'flare"
ITV branding was dropped from both these idents in 1994

* 1995 "LONDON WEEKEND" with voice of Peter Lewis: ?????
* On 30 August 1996, updated IDENT proof http://www.designweek.co.uk/news/lwt-airs-new-logo-and-idents/1102781.article there made 5/6 different vertaions
* Hearts ident: 8 November 8th 1999
* Firewall: 24 March 2000, , with an updated version on 11/08/01.


Well I have been schooled then (as the yoof say) I honestly thought flare was from 1994 as per MHP (although that hasn't been updated since 2000), however the ultimate LWT page confirms this was around at the same time as flying blocks, don't remember the ITV logo on the flare one as well.

Also this here: http://www.ultimate-lwt.co.uk/continuity1980s.html

A 3D ident from 1984, although it seems to have been rarely used

http://www.ultimate-lwt.co.uk/images/New%20Folder/84cont.jpg
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A former member
cheers for that and its been updated, I check Mhp idents and what is say is " Another variant, this one recorded in 1994" which is correct for the video Very Happy

cheers for that!

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