MK
I'm pretty sure it was in colour, going from memory of a small screengrab on the internet that I last saw years ago. Also, as Meridian's is full colour, it makes sense that Anglia's would be the same.
It's great that you have an example of it. Any idea what date it's from? It'd be great if you could get it online somehow.
It's great that you have an example of it. Any idea what date it's from? It'd be great if you could get it online somehow.
JI
It's great that you have an example of it. Any idea what date it's from?
It definitely aired before a "Midlands Bank sponsors ITV drama premiers" sponsorship, the drama itself I believe was about some kids in the countryside set around harvest time in the early 20th century (kinda thing my mum watched), if anyone can put a date to that?
It's great that you have an example of it. Any idea what date it's from?
It definitely aired before a "Midlands Bank sponsors ITV drama premiers" sponsorship, the drama itself I believe was about some kids in the countryside set around harvest time in the early 20th century (kinda thing my mum watched), if anyone can put a date to that?
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Can anyone tell me what this is about:
http://www.nationalmediamuseum.org.uk/~/media/Files/NMeM/PDF/Collections/Television/TVHeavenGenre.ashx
http://www.nationalmediamuseum.org.uk/~/media/Files/NMeM/PDF/Collections/Television/TVHeavenGenre.ashx
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They're programmes you can watch at the National Media Museum. Surely the link you clicked through would have told you that?
Can anyone tell me what this is about:
http://www.nationalmediamuseum.org.uk/~/media/Files/NMeM/PDF/Collections/Television/TVHeavenGenre.ashx
http://www.nationalmediamuseum.org.uk/~/media/Files/NMeM/PDF/Collections/Television/TVHeavenGenre.ashx
They're programmes you can watch at the National Media Museum. Surely the link you clicked through would have told you that?
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Can anyone tell me what this is about:
http://www.nationalmediamuseum.org.uk/~/media/Files/NMeM/PDF/Collections/Television/TVHeavenGenre.ashx
http://www.nationalmediamuseum.org.uk/~/media/Files/NMeM/PDF/Collections/Television/TVHeavenGenre.ashx
They're programmes you can watch at the National Media Museum. Surely the link you clicked through would have told you that?
Nope it come up throw Google search with only that!
MK
Just going back to this whole ITV logo on Anglia Flag/Meridian Sun-Moon idents, having a look on youtube, a clip of Meridian from February 1999 shows the Meridian ident without the ITV logo and there's a clip of Meridian in July 1999 with the ITV logo. Considering I remember seeing the Anglia without the ITV logo in June 1999, maybe it was introduced in July? Either that or both with and without were randomly used but that doesn't make sense to me.
Also, the idea of the regional idents being used occassionally during the early hearts era comes from this paragraph on TV Ark's Meridian page...
If anyone out there can clear this up for me, I'd much appreciate it.
Also, the idea of the regional idents being used occassionally during the early hearts era comes from this paragraph on TV Ark's Meridian page...
Quote:
In November 1999 several ITV stations took on a new generic identity based around the theme 'TV from the heart of life'. This resulted in the Meridian logo being shrunk into a small blue box.
Initially Meridian continued to use their 1998 yellow ident alongside the new set, usually only before regional programming.
Initially Meridian continued to use their 1998 yellow ident alongside the new set, usually only before regional programming.
If anyone out there can clear this up for me, I'd much appreciate it.
JA
Anglia also had another ident that year - a 40th anniverary ident with the words 40 Years and the knight superimposed on the 1988 ident. It lacks any ITV branding.
Tyne Tees continued using their local ident before local shows, and YTV had a new set. So Meridian doing the same wouldn't surprise me.
Tyne Tees continued using their local ident before local shows, and YTV had a new set. So Meridian doing the same wouldn't surprise me.
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The Last three!
* ARE WE al Agreeing its 21st March 1988:
http://tv-live.org.uk/wp/media/inthepast/anglia/14.jpg
When in 1987: ITS AFTER 1st JUNE that for sure!
* There is a clip of the old ident in uses in July 1987
* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WO8BAq2jz8 August 87
* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCNBQxvl9kI September 87
* New Look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4HDncZYMls Novermber 87, YET that awful clock is still in use....
http://tv-live.org.uk/wp/media/inthepast/htv/14.jpg
When in 1995 did it appear?
http://tv-live.org.uk/wp/media/inthepast/htv/31.jpg
* ARE WE al Agreeing its 21st March 1988:
http://tv-live.org.uk/wp/media/inthepast/anglia/14.jpg
When in 1987: ITS AFTER 1st JUNE that for sure!
* There is a clip of the old ident in uses in July 1987
* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WO8BAq2jz8 August 87
* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCNBQxvl9kI September 87
* New Look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4HDncZYMls Novermber 87, YET that awful clock is still in use....
http://tv-live.org.uk/wp/media/inthepast/htv/14.jpg
When in 1995 did it appear?
http://tv-live.org.uk/wp/media/inthepast/htv/31.jpg
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Final push to get the THREE ABOVE, and this one. I have been able to point rough but its still unsure...
When 1997?
http://tv-live.org.uk/wp/media/inthepast/border/008.jpg
When 1997?
http://tv-live.org.uk/wp/media/inthepast/border/008.jpg
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can anyone fill in the 4 missing gaps or make a correction?
Anglia
Knight ident from start to 1988
Flag come in, 21st March 1988: WE THINK
Border
Until 1989 Word Border Televison
Second Ident, 1 September 1989
An additional idnet was also used: ITV promo from 1990/1991
1st Jan 1993, the ident was changed to the Border logo revolving out of thin air and featuring a background of pastel colours. The music was retained from the generic look. Border also began to use in-vision continuity more heavily.
1st September 1995??, the logo was changed again to a 3D Border logo falling into place against a water effect blue ,
1997-1999 ?????? UNKNOWN
Central
Its believe In 1983 more colourful moon was used as front/end cap for TV shows
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GpwyVvZyRk Autumn 1983 S3 Bullseye
More information needed.
*The cake is introduced
The "one to watch" launched around August 1985 for continuity purposes only with some junctions still using announcers in-vision. At this time, the ordinary Central ident was still being used at the start of programmes. It looked a bit odd linking from the cake to the globe, but it did happen. The networked cake production animation started in 1988 and lasted for around 12 months when it was decided by the network that only static prod caps were to be used. We obviously kept the animated cake locally. Hope this is helpful. By the way, the Central presentation caption for acquired programming was replaced with a Central cake end ident.
* Cake was dropped
Last Central idents started on 20 April 1998 using the word central instead of the cake.
Carlton replaced Central idents on 6 September 1999
Carlton
first Ident January 1, 1993 shortly after midnight.
Second ident started on 4th September 1995
Third Ident started on Monday 25th November 1996
Grampian
Grampian "In Colour" ident 1971 - 1976
Dark Blue Ident used from 1977 - 1980
1980-85.
first Computer Generated 1985-89
Grampian ITV ident until 1998
HTV
Arial 1970 - 1986
Second HTV ident 1987 - 1989
ITV ident: 1st September 1989 - 1992
Third HTV ident: 1st January 1993 - 1995
Fourth Ident: ???? 1995 - 7th March 1999 UNKNOWN START DATE
LAST HTV IDENT 8th March 1999 – November 1999
Meridian
1st Jan 1993 Meridian's original ident
Second ident September 1996,
3rd ident was replaced in autumn 1998
London Weekend Television
First Ident
In 1969 poind Coin
In 1971 First LWT River ident
in 1978 updated LWT river ident
LWT dropped in-vision announcers in January 1983, and in September that year introduced a new local, animated ident, bearing the slogan 'Your Weekend ITV' for voice announcements
On 29th August 1986 first Computer Ident
On 1st September 1989 ITV ident ( Brought back the 86 ident for locl show in 90-92)
On 4th September 1992, replaced the ITV ident
On 30 August 1996, updated IDENT proof http://www.designweek.co.uk/news/lwt-airs-new-logo-and-idents/1102781.article
Scottish Television
* 1965-1985 you can thank MR STV! for these
An animated ident was introduced by 1965 in which the lion would spin inside a box , though this later modified as a simple zoom in following, according to some reports, a complaint from The Lord Lyon King of Arms, the man in charge of protecting Scotland's heraldry When colour began the lion continued to zoom but in pale blue. After the start of colour broadcasting, the lion rampant symbol was replaced within a year by a stylised 'STV' logo, which during its 15 year rein, change very little. The First version showed a zooming STV, by mid 70s it was updated with the letter comforming into the centre to make "STV". Throughout the 70s until 1985, this stylised was used as either a static caption, or form up from a pattered design that was supposed to represent tartan. Accompanying the look was a clock against a blue background with the white STV logo forming a pattern across the screen. The station's first theme was a specially composed piece by Geraldo entitled Scotlandia, which began each day's broadcasting - the theme continued to be heard until August 1985, this was accompanied At the climax by a slowly rotating '3D' STV 'illuminated name block' appeared. The 3D idents were usually produced from actual moving model
* 1985-2000
On 31 August 1985 new Computer ident "Thistle" appeared The thistle logo was modified in January 1989 to create a 2D identity which would remain in use until February 2000, under various guises. Scottish did use the ITV Generic look in 1989 but only last a few months before being completely dropped.
Dark blue Thistle: January 1989 - December 1992
ITV ident was used between 1st September - nov/dec
Purple Thistle: 1st January 1993 - 3 Nov 1996
light blue/sky thistle: 4th November 1996 to 27 February 2000
28 February 2000 Blue Squares
7 January 2003, when Scottish and Grampian adopted the celebrity idents package, albeit with their own logos attached and also featuring Scottish and Grampian presenters. The package was never updated unlike ITV version which was took place in September 2003.
TVS
1st ident appeared 1st January 1982
2nd Ident appeared on 7 September 1987.
3rd ident appeared on Autumn 1989
* TSW
Launch identity on January 1, 1982, a
Second Ident appeared in May 1985
Seasonal idents: In September 1989, the station instead chose to launch seasonal idents which would continue to be utilized, alongside the 1986 ident, until it went off air in 1992.
Tyne Tees=
On 24 October 1979, the ident was modified once more to remove the word colour and to give it a more dynamic form up.
On 5 September 1988, in which the colour scheme was reversed and lighter shades of blue and yellow: Flowing Rivers" i
on Friday 1 September 1989 Tyne Tees adopted the 1989 ITV generic look.
Tyne Tees abandoned it in May 1991. for a new new ident
Updated version on Monday 6th January 1992
1992 - 1996: The silver TTTV ident was Monday 5th October 1992
Monday 2nd September 1996 Channel 3 ident:
1998 - 1999 ??
From February 1990 invision CA, was dropped from general uses but return Christmas 1990, from September 1993 until 1996 when the pres department closed completely, for 99% of all programmes IVC or a static slide were used. The generic ident were replaced with ones produced by Tyne Tees.
Yorkshire
1986 : Liquid Gold ident
Friday 1st 1989, Yorkshire Television adopted the first ITV generic look,
November 1990 It was changed to show LARGE instead of the ITV Logo
New ident from ( 5th) September 1994, - 1996
7th October 1996, Yorkshire adopted a new branding package, based on the concept of Channel 3
Anglia
Knight ident from start to 1988
Flag come in, 21st March 1988: WE THINK
Border
Until 1989 Word Border Televison
Second Ident, 1 September 1989
An additional idnet was also used: ITV promo from 1990/1991
1st Jan 1993, the ident was changed to the Border logo revolving out of thin air and featuring a background of pastel colours. The music was retained from the generic look. Border also began to use in-vision continuity more heavily.
1st September 1995??, the logo was changed again to a 3D Border logo falling into place against a water effect blue ,
1997-1999 ?????? UNKNOWN
Central
Its believe In 1983 more colourful moon was used as front/end cap for TV shows
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GpwyVvZyRk Autumn 1983 S3 Bullseye
More information needed.
*The cake is introduced
The "one to watch" launched around August 1985 for continuity purposes only with some junctions still using announcers in-vision. At this time, the ordinary Central ident was still being used at the start of programmes. It looked a bit odd linking from the cake to the globe, but it did happen. The networked cake production animation started in 1988 and lasted for around 12 months when it was decided by the network that only static prod caps were to be used. We obviously kept the animated cake locally. Hope this is helpful. By the way, the Central presentation caption for acquired programming was replaced with a Central cake end ident.
* Cake was dropped
Last Central idents started on 20 April 1998 using the word central instead of the cake.
Carlton replaced Central idents on 6 September 1999
Carlton
first Ident January 1, 1993 shortly after midnight.
Second ident started on 4th September 1995
Third Ident started on Monday 25th November 1996
Grampian
Grampian "In Colour" ident 1971 - 1976
Dark Blue Ident used from 1977 - 1980
1980-85.
first Computer Generated 1985-89
Grampian ITV ident until 1998
HTV
Arial 1970 - 1986
Second HTV ident 1987 - 1989
ITV ident: 1st September 1989 - 1992
Third HTV ident: 1st January 1993 - 1995
Fourth Ident: ???? 1995 - 7th March 1999 UNKNOWN START DATE
LAST HTV IDENT 8th March 1999 – November 1999
Meridian
1st Jan 1993 Meridian's original ident
Second ident September 1996,
3rd ident was replaced in autumn 1998
London Weekend Television
First Ident
In 1969 poind Coin
In 1971 First LWT River ident
in 1978 updated LWT river ident
LWT dropped in-vision announcers in January 1983, and in September that year introduced a new local, animated ident, bearing the slogan 'Your Weekend ITV' for voice announcements
On 29th August 1986 first Computer Ident
On 1st September 1989 ITV ident ( Brought back the 86 ident for locl show in 90-92)
On 4th September 1992, replaced the ITV ident
On 30 August 1996, updated IDENT proof http://www.designweek.co.uk/news/lwt-airs-new-logo-and-idents/1102781.article
Scottish Television
* 1965-1985 you can thank MR STV! for these
An animated ident was introduced by 1965 in which the lion would spin inside a box , though this later modified as a simple zoom in following, according to some reports, a complaint from The Lord Lyon King of Arms, the man in charge of protecting Scotland's heraldry When colour began the lion continued to zoom but in pale blue. After the start of colour broadcasting, the lion rampant symbol was replaced within a year by a stylised 'STV' logo, which during its 15 year rein, change very little. The First version showed a zooming STV, by mid 70s it was updated with the letter comforming into the centre to make "STV". Throughout the 70s until 1985, this stylised was used as either a static caption, or form up from a pattered design that was supposed to represent tartan. Accompanying the look was a clock against a blue background with the white STV logo forming a pattern across the screen. The station's first theme was a specially composed piece by Geraldo entitled Scotlandia, which began each day's broadcasting - the theme continued to be heard until August 1985, this was accompanied At the climax by a slowly rotating '3D' STV 'illuminated name block' appeared. The 3D idents were usually produced from actual moving model
* 1985-2000
On 31 August 1985 new Computer ident "Thistle" appeared The thistle logo was modified in January 1989 to create a 2D identity which would remain in use until February 2000, under various guises. Scottish did use the ITV Generic look in 1989 but only last a few months before being completely dropped.
Dark blue Thistle: January 1989 - December 1992
ITV ident was used between 1st September - nov/dec
Purple Thistle: 1st January 1993 - 3 Nov 1996
light blue/sky thistle: 4th November 1996 to 27 February 2000
28 February 2000 Blue Squares
7 January 2003, when Scottish and Grampian adopted the celebrity idents package, albeit with their own logos attached and also featuring Scottish and Grampian presenters. The package was never updated unlike ITV version which was took place in September 2003.
TVS
1st ident appeared 1st January 1982
2nd Ident appeared on 7 September 1987.
3rd ident appeared on Autumn 1989
* TSW
Launch identity on January 1, 1982, a
Second Ident appeared in May 1985
Seasonal idents: In September 1989, the station instead chose to launch seasonal idents which would continue to be utilized, alongside the 1986 ident, until it went off air in 1992.
Tyne Tees=
On 24 October 1979, the ident was modified once more to remove the word colour and to give it a more dynamic form up.
On 5 September 1988, in which the colour scheme was reversed and lighter shades of blue and yellow: Flowing Rivers" i
on Friday 1 September 1989 Tyne Tees adopted the 1989 ITV generic look.
Tyne Tees abandoned it in May 1991. for a new new ident
Updated version on Monday 6th January 1992
1992 - 1996: The silver TTTV ident was Monday 5th October 1992
Monday 2nd September 1996 Channel 3 ident:
1998 - 1999 ??
From February 1990 invision CA, was dropped from general uses but return Christmas 1990, from September 1993 until 1996 when the pres department closed completely, for 99% of all programmes IVC or a static slide were used. The generic ident were replaced with ones produced by Tyne Tees.
Yorkshire
1986 : Liquid Gold ident
Friday 1st 1989, Yorkshire Television adopted the first ITV generic look,
November 1990 It was changed to show LARGE instead of the ITV Logo
New ident from ( 5th) September 1994, - 1996
7th October 1996, Yorkshire adopted a new branding package, based on the concept of Channel 3
CO
Mythbuster time.
Border:
They may still have used the 1989 ITV generic ident into 1993; TV Ark has the opening sequence to "the first Lookaround of the New Year" using the titles thought to have been introduced that year. However, I can't find evidence at the moment to confirm the lead story featured in that sequence occurred in January 1993.
Tyne Tees:
In-vision continuity was still in use between February and November 1990:
Yorkshire Television:
The original 1989 version of their ITV generic ident was still being used in December 1990:
(fades out as the V forms, but you see it fade up over the menu for a few frames)
Border:
They may still have used the 1989 ITV generic ident into 1993; TV Ark has the opening sequence to "the first Lookaround of the New Year" using the titles thought to have been introduced that year. However, I can't find evidence at the moment to confirm the lead story featured in that sequence occurred in January 1993.
Tyne Tees:
In-vision continuity was still in use between February and November 1990:
Yorkshire Television:
The original 1989 version of their ITV generic ident was still being used in December 1990:
(fades out as the V forms, but you see it fade up over the menu for a few frames)