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MU
mulder
I dunno if anybody else has mentioned it (search just gave me about 10 pages of stuff to trawl through), but I notice Darling Buds of May was in 16:9 today. Looked like they'd cropped it carefully though, so as not to loose any important bits of the picture. Other old dramas this afternoon have not been cropped. Bit of a shame that they feel they have to do this to old programmes. Why fix something that isn't broken?
WE
Westy2
Didn't they used to show it in 4:3 on Plus ?
JA
james2001 Founding member
They cropped it when ITV re-ran it last year unfortunatly. presumably ITV3 are using those versions.
MU
mulder
Westy2 posted:
Didn't they used to show it in 4:3 on Plus ?


Well, last time I saw it on ITV3 it was 4:3 as well!

EDIT: removed some ramblings.

There is a repeat at 7.15pm if you want to check it out.
DA
davidhorman
Sherlock Holmes has been given this treatment lately too.

David
NW
nwtv2003
james2001 posted:
They cropped it when ITV re-ran it last year unfortunatly. presumably ITV3 are using those versions.


ITV gave it a Prime Time repeat a few years ago and they did the same thing then, but the noticable difference was they made the Credits ECP friendly and added the purple Yorkshire Television endcap.
CW
cwathen Founding member
Quote:
I dunno if anybody else has mentioned it (search just gave me about 10 pages of stuff to trawl through), but I notice Darling Buds of May was in 16:9 today. Looked like they'd cropped it carefully though, so as not to loose any important bits of the picture. Other old dramas this afternoon have not been cropped. Bit of a shame that they feel they have to do this to old programmes. Why fix something that isn't broken?

Which version have they actually run then? A few years ago, they remastered the programme, and in the process cropped it (a shame, since the picture quality was far superior to the original edits), but this version was classed as a new production, carrying a 2002 copyright date (on a series which was actually made between 1991 and 1993!).

If the original credits appeared today (which is what I think was implied in this thread) then are they simply running the original version of the programme, but cropped to 16:9?
DJ
DJGM
IIRC, last time we discussed this, someone mentioned "The Darling Buds Of May" was filmed in letterbox format, but was
shown in the 4:3 format, when ITV originally broadcast the series in the early 90's. If that's the case, then it's the original
broadcast that was cropped, and the re-runs are now being shown in pretty much the way they were originally made.
CW
cwathen Founding member
Quote:
IIRC, last time we discussed this, someone mentioned "The Darling Buds Of May" was filmed in letterbox format, but was
shown in the 4:3 format, when ITV originally broadcast the series in the early 90's. If that's the case, then it's the original
broadcast that was cropped, and the re-runs are now being shown in pretty much the way they were originally made.

It was not made in 'letterbox' (as in 16:9 or even 14:9) format, it was simply shot on film in a format which was not exactly 4:3. It was however not a widescreen format in any accepted use of the term, was framed for 4:3, and was always intended to be presented in 4:3.

16:9 cropping is not showing them how they were intended to be shown.
HA
harshy Founding member
cwathen posted:
Quote:
IIRC, last time we discussed this, someone mentioned "The Darling Buds Of May" was filmed in letterbox format, but was
shown in the 4:3 format, when ITV originally broadcast the series in the early 90's. If that's the case, then it's the original
broadcast that was cropped, and the re-runs are now being shown in pretty much the way they were originally made.

It was not made in 'letterbox' (as in 16:9 or even 14:9) format, it was simply shot on film in a format which was not exactly 4:3. It was however not a widescreen format in any accepted use of the term, was framed for 4:3, and was always intended to be presented in 4:3.

16:9 cropping is not showing them how they were intended to be shown.


That's correct when it was shown on Granada Plus, the original was shot in almost 4:3, and the framing and composition was such, it's a shame that it's been cropped to 16:9 mode, to me this is as one of the characters in the drama puts it "ghastly"

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