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LL
London Lite Founding member
Considering the winner is a radio presenter, it isn't a a surprise.
BR
Brekkie
The one week hiatus really seemed to hurt the ratings.
MH
Mateus Honrado
The one week hiatus really seemed to hurt the ratings.

I would say that the withdrawals likely had a hand on the lackluster ratings.
JA
JAS84
Hey, 3.8m isn't THAT bad. It's double what Bank Balance got!
JK
JKDerry
JAS84 posted:
Hey, 3.8m isn't THAT bad. It's double what Bank Balance got!

Strictly Come Dancing 2020 Final peaked at 13 million - that just exposes how bad the ratings for the final of DOI were.

Now people will say both shows are different, I disagree, both have similar concepts, indeed DOI have taken a lot of what Strictly does, such as Movies Week, musicals etc.

We are still under tight restrictions, so shouldn't DOI have had much more for their finals? Of course, just this series has been appalling in terms of atmosphere, style, attitude. Just my opinion
AA
Aaron_2015
A bit of perspective wouldn't go amiss here (and I say that as somebody who has no interest in watching it whatsoever), the ratings for Dancing on Ice are absolutely fine. Before the week's break, it was between 5 and 6m consolidated. At that level, ITV will be more than happy with the show - it fills 2 hours a week for 12 weeks or so, skews pretty young and keeps their two most popular daytime presenters in a primetime slot. In the current viewing climate, and given that it starts at 6pm, it's absolutely fine.

Strictly Come Dancing 2020 Final peaked at 13 million - that just exposes how bad the ratings for the final of DOI were.


It does no such thing. As you state, you're quoting the peak (the highest few minutes of the most watched episode), which you cannot reasonably use as a comparison. The program average was 11.6m and the series average was 10.77m, they are more comparable figures. It is, however, a ridiculous comparison in the first instance - Strictly Come Dancing is BBC One's most popular show, and the centrepiece of the BBC's Entertainment output. Dancing on Ice is no such thing to ITV, so the comparison is meaningless.

The facts don't seem to matter here anymore.
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SW
Steve Williams
It does no such thing. As you state, you're quoting the peak (the highest few minutes of the most watched episode), which you cannot reasonably use as a comparison. The program average was 11.6m and the series average was 10.77m, they are more comparable figures. It is, however, a ridiculous comparison in the first instance - Strictly Come Dancing is BBC One's most popular show, and the centrepiece of the BBC's Entertainment output. Dancing on Ice is no such thing to ITV, so the comparison is meaningless.


Well, I would mostly agree with this, it's not fair to cherry-pick Strictly's highest ratings with Dancing on Ice's lowest.

I would suggest, though, that Dancing on Ice certainly was once at the same level as Strictly - in its first few years it was certainly getting Strictly-style ratings, for a time you might have suggested it was almost a bigger show than Strictly itself. In 2009, for example, albeit that was Strictly's lowest ebb, there was only 250k in their respective highest ratings - http://www.offthetelly.co.uk/oldott/www.offthetelly.co.uk/index6267.html?p=7901 - and it would quite frequently feature among the highest rated shows of the year. What that seemingly illustrates is that the Beeb have managed to keep Strictly buoyant, and been able to arrest a decline, whereas it's not been the case with Dancing on Ice.

I think what we have now with Dancing on Ice is a bit like Doctor Who, in that it used to get huge ratings comparable to everything on TV, but now while its overall audience is nothing particularly special, it still does well within its genre, and there are few other light entertainment shows that can still pull in an audience of comparable size. And as suggested, any show that has to take a week off and endures such terrible luck with illness and injury is always going to struggle.

It's always hard to compare Dancing on Ice to Strictly, though, because unlike other shows it doesn't always get its biggest audience for the final, because it begins in the beginning of January when audiences are at their highest, and by the time it ends the weather is much better and it's much lighter in the evening, as opposed to Strictly which of course starts in the autumn and ends in the depths of winter. I know it doesn't mean so much at the moment, but even it still being light is a factor, I think.

But then, Dancing on Ice always seems to break all the rules of shows like this, everyone says these kinds of shows are bloated and have a terrible set of Z-listers as contestants, and this shows seems to suffer from that more than most and it still pulls in audiences. And whenever they have a funny contestant like Todd Carty, instead of lasting for ages like on other shows they immediately get voted off. And obviously it's the most derivative programme ever made (ie, just Strictly, but on ice). It's such a strange show.

But it's certainly not to say it can't be reinvented yet again. That 2009 series of Strictly was a bit of a disaster, obviously not as much as this series of Dancing on Ice, but it seemed in pretty poor shape. You had the business about Arlene going (which they were probably right to do, but the PR was terrible), and then it had a pretty ropey cast, and they stupidly took it off Sundays and changed it back to one long show on a Saturday (at which point The X Factor nipped in and exploded) then you had the unpleasantness with apparent racism on set, then a stack of injuries and Brucie falling ill, and it felt like it was totally on the slide. But they managed to arrest the decline, mostly thanks to an increased budget and a bit of TLC, but some of it was a stroke of luck - because 2010 was an exceptionally bad winter and so it had a bit of a captive audience some weeks. It's all swings and roundabouts on shows like this. You won't see Strictly crowing about how bad Dancing on Ice have had it with illness and injury, as they know it could happen to them next.
JK
JKDerry
A bit of perspective wouldn't go amiss here (and I say that as somebody who has no interest in watching it whatsoever), the ratings for Dancing on Ice are absolutely fine. Before the week's break, it was between 5 and 6m consolidated. At that level, ITV will be more than happy with the show - it fills 2 hours a week for 12 weeks or so, skews pretty young and keeps their two most popular daytime presenters in a primetime slot. In the current viewing climate, and given that it starts at 6pm, it's absolutely fine.

Strictly Come Dancing 2020 Final peaked at 13 million - that just exposes how bad the ratings for the final of DOI were.


It does no such thing. As you state, you're quoting the peak (the highest few minutes of the most watched episode), which you cannot reasonably use as a comparison. The program average was 11.6m and the series average was 10.77m, they are more comparable figures. It is, however, a ridiculous comparison in the first instance - Strictly Come Dancing is BBC One's most popular show, and the centrepiece of the BBC's Entertainment output. Dancing on Ice is no such thing to ITV, so the comparison is meaningless.

The facts don't seem to matter here anymore.

I am so glad this forum is closing down, once again bashed over the head for stating facts over ratings. Dancing on Ice is an important show to ITV, otherwise they would not waste vast money on producing it every year.

I would like a day go by when the petty mindedness of people on here stops. I submitted my point of view over the audience ratings. Don't like it, fine.

Take a look at the weekly Strictly audience ratings and put them next to the weekly audience ratings of Dancing on Ice, and there is a huge gaps. Just saying Dancing on Ice is not important to ITV is nonsense. ITV would not waste time and effort on a show that does not do well. Look how they "rested" The X Factor.
PI
pip2
Quote:
I would like a day go by when the petty mindedness of people on here stops. I submitted my point of view over the audience ratings. Don't like it, fine.


I think you missed a bit off at the end there. “Don’t like it, fine... reply with your point of view”

That is how forums work after all.
AA
Aaron_2015
A bit of perspective wouldn't go amiss here (and I say that as somebody who has no interest in watching it whatsoever), the ratings for Dancing on Ice are absolutely fine. Before the week's break, it was between 5 and 6m consolidated. At that level, ITV will be more than happy with the show - it fills 2 hours a week for 12 weeks or so, skews pretty young and keeps their two most popular daytime presenters in a primetime slot. In the current viewing climate, and given that it starts at 6pm, it's absolutely fine.

Strictly Come Dancing 2020 Final peaked at 13 million - that just exposes how bad the ratings for the final of DOI were.


It does no such thing. As you state, you're quoting the peak (the highest few minutes of the most watched episode), which you cannot reasonably use as a comparison. The program average was 11.6m and the series average was 10.77m, they are more comparable figures. It is, however, a ridiculous comparison in the first instance - Strictly Come Dancing is BBC One's most popular show, and the centrepiece of the BBC's Entertainment output. Dancing on Ice is no such thing to ITV, so the comparison is meaningless.

The facts don't seem to matter here anymore.

I am so glad this forum is closing down, once again bashed over the head for stating facts over ratings. Dancing on Ice is an important show to ITV, otherwise they would not waste vast money on producing it every year.

I would like a day go by when the petty mindedness of people on here stops. I submitted my point of view over the audience ratings. Don't like it, fine.

Take a look at the weekly Strictly audience ratings and put them next to the weekly audience ratings of Dancing on Ice, and there is a huge gaps. Just saying Dancing on Ice is not important to ITV is nonsense. ITV would not waste time and effort on a show that does not do well. Look how they "rested" The X Factor.


Not sure if you are deliberately misunderstanding my point, or if you genuinely don’t get it. I’m leaning towards the latter.

You are not being criticised for ‘stating facts over ratings’ — ratings are facts. I’m criticising your use of deliberately misrepresented statistics to support your argument.

If you actually read my post (and frankly I’m not convinced you did), at no point do I say Dancing on Ice is not important to ITV. In truth, I say the opposite - the show fills two hours a week at a respectable rating, and attracts a reasonably good 16-34 audience. So to that end, we agree it is important to ITV.

Where we differ is that you are attempting to suggest the show is as important to ITV as Strictly is to the BBC — it is not. Dancing on Ice is one of ITV’s many entertainment shows, it performs reasonably enough, but certainly isn’t their most valuable show (certainly not in comparison to BGT, IAC, and more recently, The Masked Singer). Strictly, by contrast, is far, far, more important to the BBC. As Steve rightly says, DOI used to match Strictly, but times have evidently changed. Nobody, and I mean nobody, was expecting the revival of Dancing on Ice to come anywhere near Strictly, so the comparison of today’s figures are meaningless.

It’s been explained countless times to you that you are perfectly entitled to express your opinion, just as we all do. What you do, however, is present your opinion with the impression that it is factual. If you still can’t see it after all this time, I’m not convinced you ever will.
JE
Jez Founding member
I thought it was a very underwhelming final to DOI and a very underwhelming winner in my opinion. I still think ITV should have cancelled DOI for this year.
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MH
Mateus Honrado

I would like a day go by when the petty mindedness of people on here stops. I submitted my point of view over the audience ratings. Don't like it, fine.

Whoa, just take it easy with that.

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