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Steve Williams2,599 posts since 1 Aug 2008
I think that's a bit harsh and just excusing one person's behaviour as he is a bit more successful. I don't see Jason as any harsher at all - just lacks the wit of Craig.


Well, he probably is a nice enough chap, but as you say, he doesn't have the wit of Craig, so he comes across as a bit unpleasant.

I know it's a weird connection but it reminds me a bit of what Stewart Lee said about Frankie Boyle, he said he could see why people could think he was a bully because he appeared on stage on Live at the Appalling in an expensive suit with dry ice all over the place. Stew said that if you were doing comedy like that you really needed to have a persona of failure and make yourself look just as bad, so people could see it was a character.

It's like that with Craig, he makes the comments but then he'll participate in some silly joke, or he'll always be the first to get on stage and have a dance himself, and the audience know it's all a bit of fun. Whereas Jason Gardiner doesn't really do that.
Brekkie30,721 posts since 4 Jan 2003 Recently warned
HTV Wales Wales Today
Doesn't really have the opportunity too - really though of all the people on the panel Jason is probably the one I have the least issue with. Still prefer Roberts to Banjo when it comes to Ashley, and it might as well be Torvill or Dean.

Was interesting actually to see Jason singing the praises of Karen in an interview I read at the weekend (can't recall where), saying the show suffered without her coaching last year and saying nothing but good things about her really. Of course their "fight" was a good 8 years ago now and ultimately it probably got her back on the panel, and no doubt Robin and Karen were better in the judging role than Torvill and Dean.


Ultimately though the show does feel so flat now and I don't think that can purely be put down to the on screen personnel. Whilst there is the argument the rest did it good ultimately it's most comparable rival just thrived and developed in that time and Dancing on Ice is struggling to catch up. Also don't think it helps having the first couple of shows just have 6 competitive routines (and no skate off in week one) - it's much better when it's packed with 10-12 routines and moves along at a pace.
Shouldn't that have been posted in the "John Logie Baird has Invented Television" thread?
Gary Baldy12 posts since 28 Dec 2018 new member
Granada North West Today
Doesn't really have the opportunity too - really though of all the people on the panel Jason is probably the one I have the least issue with. Still prefer Roberts to Banjo when it comes to Ashley, and it might as well be Torvill or Dean.

Was interesting actually to see Jason singing the praises of Karen in an interview I read at the weekend (can't recall where), saying the show suffered without her coaching last year and saying nothing but good things about her really. Of course their "fight" was a good 8 years ago now and ultimately it probably got her back on the panel, and no doubt Robin and Karen were better in the judging role than Torvill and Dean.


Ultimately though the show does feel so flat now and I don't think that can purely be put down to the on screen personnel. Whilst there is the argument the rest did it good ultimately it's most comparable rival just thrived and developed in that time and Dancing on Ice is struggling to catch up. Also don't think it helps having the first couple of shows just have 6 competitive routines (and no skate off in week one) - it's much better when it's packed with 10-12 routines and moves along at a pace.


8 YEARS ALREADY???
Whataday9,608 posts since 13 Sep 2001
HTV Wales Wales Today
It's reported Gemma Collins left the set early last night and went home while the show was still on air "because she got bored".

This doesn't surprise me at all. I had a dreadful experience with her once when she was paid a fee for an hour's work and she wanted to leave within 20 minutes. In fact the first thing she said on arrival was that she wanted to leave as quickly as possible. I lied and said I'd do everything I could to speed things up but in the end she had to stay the full hour.
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RDJ2,615 posts since 25 Oct 2003
Central (South) Midlands Today
It's reported Gemma Collins left the set early last night and went home while the show was still on air "because she got bored".

This doesn't surprise me at all. I had a dreadful experience with her once when she was paid a fee for an hour's work and she wanted to leave within 20 minutes. In fact the first thing she said on arrival was that she wanted to leave as quickly as possible. I lied and said I'd do everything I could to speed things up but in the end she had to stay the full hour.


This was verified as true according to Holy and Philip on today's This Morning. Including making the whole studio waiting for her in the dress rehearsal because she decided to have a nap. Holly did not have kind words to say about her in regards to this.
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Brekkie30,721 posts since 4 Jan 2003 Recently warned
HTV Wales Wales Today
It's reported Gemma Collins left the set early last night and went home while the show was still on air "because she got bored".

This doesn't surprise me at all. I had a dreadful experience with her once when she was paid a fee for an hour's work and she wanted to leave within 20 minutes. In fact the first thing she said on arrival was that she wanted to leave as quickly as possible. I lied and said I'd do everything I could to speed things up but in the end she had to stay the full hour.

Was so happy to read Holly and Phil calling her out on her behaviour and unprofessionalism.
Shouldn't that have been posted in the "John Logie Baird has Invented Television" thread?
London Lite10,002 posts since 4 Jan 2003
London London
Considering Collins' 'talents' include doing improv on a structured reality show, she should be grateful for any bookings she receives.

At least the likes of Mark Wright and Amy Childs have been grateful and gone on to other work through being on the series in its prime, Ms Collins on the other hand has the ego without the career or the talent.
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Aaron_20151,028 posts since 11 Mar 2015
Westcountry Spotlight
Very rare to see Holly quite so direct, but she’s absolutely right of course. I can only imagine what an absolute nightmare Collins has been from day one. Both instances are entirely unprofessional, but they’ll no doubt generate headlines, essentially giving Collins a free pass to do as she pleases.