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Brekkie
There are those who genuinely get offended and those that choose to get offended.

There are also those who don't understand that actually it is OK to be offended and if you're not you are not understanding the context of the situation.

To Death Us Do Part extended that idea over 30 minutes. It was supposed to be a satirical demolition of racism and sexism, the viewers and possibly some of the BBC manangment didn't 'get that' at all, and the whole thing backfired (for several series and years!)


Yes. Unfortunately Till Death Us Do Part inadvertently gave a stronger voice to racists and sexists, with Alf becoming their hero.

And yet 40 years later Brexit was commissioned.
JB
JasonB

Gavin & Stacey is currently experiencing a backlash from certain parts of the LGBTQ community due to their use of the F word on Christmas Day.


That old chestnut comes up every year Wink
NL
Ne1L C
To Death Us Do Part extended that idea over 30 minutes. It was supposed to be a satirical demolition of racism and sexism, the viewers and possibly some of the BBC manangment didn't 'get that' at all, and the whole thing backfired (for several series and years!)


Yes. Unfortunately Till Death Us Do Part inadvertently gave a stronger voice to racists and sexists, with Alf becoming their hero.

Gavin & Stacey is currently experiencing a backlash from certain parts of the LGBTQ community due to their use of the F word on Christmas Day.



Warren Mitchell did speak once about how he told a racist cretin that Till Death was against people like him and that the cretin didn’t get it.
MA
Markymark

Gavin & Stacey is currently experiencing a backlash from certain parts of the LGBTQ community due to their use of the F word on Christmas Day.


That old chestnut comes up every year Wink


Well, more like a word that has seems to have recently become a new 'f word'. What's next, supermarkets having to rename a meal ?

Thanks to Clarkson and co I find myself having to use the word gradient rather than the 's word' when describing a route.
LS
Lou Scannon
Gavin & Stacey is currently experiencing a backlash from certain parts of the LGBTQ community due to their use of the F word on Christmas Day.


Festive? Laughing

I'm not into Gavin & Stacey, but a colleague told me about the song controversy on Friday (mainly to seek an opinion from the lavender bus).

My assessment was: Rolling Eyes

Given the prevalence of that Pogues song during the festive season (e.g. amongst the loop of festive hits being piped into shopping malls etc), it's not as if G&S is the only place where those lyrics will have been heard in recent weeks.

My understanding has always been that in Irish slang, a "faggot" means something like a lazy/idle/useless person. Presumably a comparison to the faggot foodstuff (e.g. sitting there like a lump of nondescript meat). Nothing to do with sexual orientation etc.

The Pogues are/were Irish, not American (as that's where the anti-gay slur meaning of the word comes from). Also, in the context of the surrounding lyrics it is clear that the song's female character is generally calling the male character (her boyfriend?) a good-for-nothing waster.

Yet another case of complainant idiocy, as is increasingly commonplace (depressingly).
Last edited by Lou Scannon on 28 December 2019 5:43pm
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Markymark
To Death Us Do Part extended that idea over 30 minutes. It was supposed to be a satirical demolition of racism and sexism, the viewers and possibly some of the BBC manangment didn't 'get that' at all, and the whole thing backfired (for several series and years!)


Yes. Unfortunately Till Death Us Do Part inadvertently gave a stronger voice to racists and sexists, with Alf becoming their hero.

Gavin & Stacey is currently experiencing a backlash from certain parts of the LGBTQ community due to their use of the F word on Christmas Day.



Warren Mitchell did speak once about how he told a racist cretin that Till Death was against people like him and that the cretin didn’t get it.


Johnny Speight also wrote the LWT sitcom 'Curry and Chips' in 1969. The IBA didn't get the satire and ordered it off the air. In light of TDDUP's undesirable popularity, probably the right decision, but for the wrong reason !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curry_and_Chips
LL
London Lite Founding member
Love thy Neighbour was of a similar ilk, yet the studio audience and bigoted viewers lapped up the racial slurs despite the joke being on the ignorant white character.
MA
Markymark

Yet another case of complainant idiocy, as is increasingly commonplace (depressingly).


https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/18076363.bbc-radio-solent-dj-alex-dyke-slams-pogues-christmas-hit-fairytale-new-york/
LS
Lou Scannon


Rolling Eyes Not intelligent enough to be allowed on the airwaves.

Love thy Neighbour was of a similar ilk, yet the studio audience and bigoted viewers lapped up the racial slurs despite the joke being on the ignorant white character.


Weren't the two wives good pals, who both despaired of the dynamic between their husbands?
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Markymark


Rolling Eyes Not intelligent enough to be allowed on the airwaves.


Think of Alex Dyke as Hampshire's version of Alan Partridge,
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Neil Jones Founding member
Johnny Speight also wrote the LWT sitcom 'Curry and Chips' in 1969. The IBA didn't get the satire and ordered it off the air. In light of TDDUP's undesirable popularity, probably the right decision, but for the wrong reason !


And it was released on DVD in the end (through Network), presumably uncut.

The Melting Pot was another Spike Milligan vehicle, along a similar principle. Except it was unique because the pilot went out, the BBC commissioned a series of six episode and then didn't air any of them - was thought to be too racist.

Of course it could probably be argued that the Channel 4 show Desmond's broke the mould for black entertainment.
NL
Ne1L C
Desmond’s was a brilliant comedy. Probably the first positive portrayal of Afro Caribbean characters I remember.
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