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thegeek4,927 posts since 1 Jan 2002
London London
They were just given a nice goodbye to Channel 4 viewers and nice clean opt out point.


Yes, I was expecting a crash out, but nicely done ( take note BBC 2 !)

Somewhat neater than their exit before the F1 - the host took a 30s break, then C4 came back for all of about 20 seconds before crashing back out again, presumably at the planned time. Not the most fortunate timing!
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Brekkie31,659 posts since 4 Jan 2003
HTV Wales Wales Today
Be interesting to know how this deal played out financially considering it was mainly at the insistence of the ICC. I wonder if C4 simply paid a fee or if thee was more of an ad revenue sharing agreement. I suspect this sort of thing may happen more in the future and it's a shame BT and ITV didn't come to a similar arrangement for the Champions League Final.
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UKnews829 posts since 26 Apr 2011
Be interesting to know how this deal played out financially considering it was mainly at the insistence of the ICC. I wonder if C4 simply paid a fee or if thee was more of an ad revenue sharing agreement. I suspect this sort of thing may happen more in the future and it's a shame BT and ITV didn't come to a similar arrangement for the Champions League Final.

At the insistence of the ICC? The same ones who allowed a pay TV exclusive deal in the host nation? Sorry if I’ve missed the reports that said it was the ICC who put the pressure on but I don’t think that’s the case.


Given that for the Champions League Final BT managed to get almost 6m across their channels made FTA and claimed around the same number of unique stream viewers then I don’t think they’ll feel the need to do more than they’ve already done.
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harshy6,171 posts since 24 Mar 2001
So was Sky taking the World Feed commentary or their own commentary?

They had their own wrapper coverage then joined the world feed for the main match coverage then naturally wrapped it up with their own coverage, icc world feed finished in the usual ICC way with match stats throughout tournament and then an ending sequence, sunset and vine were fantastic, they really are cricket production masters. It was like 2005 again I’m pretty sure Sunset and Vine produced the ashes coverage for channel4 then.
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madmusician877 posts since 2 Jun 2006
Central (West) Midlands Today
So was Sky taking the World Feed commentary or their own commentary?

They had their own wrapper coverage then joined the world feed for the main match coverage then naturally wrapped it up with their own coverage, icc world feed finished in the usual ICC way with match stats throughout tournament and then an ending sequence, sunset and vine were fantastic, they really are cricket production masters. It was like 2005 again I’m pretty sure Sunset and Vine produced the ashes coverage for channel4 then.

Yes they did. Today was perfect. An S&V production on Channel 4 with a few of the same commentators (Ian Bishop, Ian Smith and Michael Atherton all learned their trade on C4 cricket back in the day). And a nailbiter worthy of 2005.

I shed a tear when we won and I'm sure I wasn't alone.

And (forgive me if linking to this is frowned upon), I formulated far more of why it meant *so* much to have today's final on Channel 4 here: https://njfreestone.wordpress.com/2019/07/12/you-wouldnt-write-the-script-channel-4-cricket-and-me/
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toby lerone 2016429 posts since 13 Jul 2016
UTV Newsline
So was Sky taking the World Feed commentary or their own commentary?

They had their own wrapper coverage then joined the world feed for the main match coverage then naturally wrapped it up with their own coverage, icc world feed finished in the usual ICC way with match stats throughout tournament and then an ending sequence, sunset and vine were fantastic, they really are cricket production masters. It was like 2005 again I’m pretty sure Sunset and Vine produced the ashes coverage for channel4 then.

Yes they did. Today was perfect. An S&V production on Channel 4 with a few of the same commentators (Ian Bishop, Ian Smith and Michael Atherton all learned their trade on C4 cricket back in the day). And a nailbiter worthy of 2005.

I shed a tear when we won and I'm sure I wasn't alone.

And (forgive me if linking to this is frowned upon), I formulated far more of why it meant *so* much to have today's final on Channel 4 here: https://njfreestone.wordpress.com/2019/07/12/you-wouldnt-write-the-script-channel-4-cricket-and-me/


Great article like yourself I grew up watching England Cricket on Channel 4 and my first memory of cricket was the 2000 West Indies series with Andrew Caddick 4 wickets in an over and watched every summer since starting as a 10 year old climaxing with the 2005 Ashes. I am from Northern Ireland but always supported the England team because of Channel 4 coverage before I ever got to watch an Ireland match so suppose I always had 2 teams I supported in Cricket. Also great to be able to watch the whole match today live on Channel 4 & More 4 alongside the brilliant Wimbledon Men's Singles Final on BBC One and shows the power of FTA sport.

I also think today could be a watershed moment for Free to Air sport and could change the way sports contracts are agreed in the UK also it could be a watershed moment for Sky Sports and maybe we may see them bid for more rights to put on a FTA broadcaster.
Ste1,158 posts since 22 Jun 2001
Granada North West Today


And (forgive me if linking to this is frowned upon), I formulated far more of why it meant *so* much to have today's final on Channel 4 here: https://njfreestone.wordpress.com/2019/07/12/you-wouldnt-write-the-script-channel-4-cricket-and-me/


Thanks, very good article.

Trying to think back to the Channel 4 coverage, did Film4 (or one of the other digital channels) show the end of the days play coverage cut off to show Hollyoaks? I remember the earlier start of the matches, was it 10am that the days play was starting at that time.

I also remember Channel 4 did a good job of showing highlights of the winter tours as well, I'm sure the tour to Pakistan and others had highlights on C4.
Brekkie31,659 posts since 4 Jan 2003
HTV Wales Wales Today
Film4 certainly showed coverage in the day when C4 showed racing, but would have been on air by 6pm so I doubt they'd have shown the end of games.

C4 always got alot of unfair flack for the times they bumped coverage to Film4 (think it was branded 4Extra for a bit), but the cricket usually continued in between racing coverage and of course the BBC would combine not just cricket and racing, but cricket and any other sport they had the rights too, with their afternoon coverage, including Golf, Wimbledon and events like the Olympics if there was a clash.
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madmusician877 posts since 2 Jun 2006
Central (West) Midlands Today
Yes, Film Four was used for the racing clashes (usually on Saturday afternoons) and was shown 'in the clear' at those times.

Of course, what we saw today demonstrated what would have been, should C4 have carried on showing the cricket once More4 had launched - a Freeview channel that had pretty much the same reach as C4 taking over, which would have been a vast improvement and disproved the naysayers.

I deliberately didn't mention the racing clashes in that article as it genuinely wasn't a problem for me - cutting off play, though, was really not good and thankfully stopped after 2003.

Ste - it was a 10.45am start for play in 2003, then 10.30am in 2004 and 2005. They did show winter tour highlights when they began - tours to South Africa, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and India were all shown (in the years between 1999 and 2002), but the New Zealand tour of 2002 was not shown and the 2002-3 Ashes was only shown under duress. No highlights of the 2003 World Cup and then no further away highlights after that (although ICC Cricket World was shown in two year-long series - February 2002-February 2003 and then February 2004-February 2005).
JAS843,957 posts since 26 Aug 2010
Yorkshire Look North (E.Yorks & Lincs)
Forgotten how boring live cricket actually is.

I’d forgotten how exciting cricket actually is.

For those who aren’t watching, it’s basically gone to a penalty shoot out.
Yeah, the last man was knocked out when the scores were tied, so it went to a Super Over, six balls each, three batsmen maximum (so two Outs end the innings). And then that ended 15 runs each, meaning England won for having more sixes and fours across the whole match. If I understand that boundary rule right? I had the BBC Sport website loaded up, intending to just find out if they won or not, not expecting them to still be playing.
derek500703 posts since 10 Dec 2003
Westcountry Points West
Be interesting to know how this deal played out financially considering it was mainly at the insistence of the ICC. I wonder if C4 simply paid a fee or if thee was more of an ad revenue sharing agreement. I suspect this sort of thing may happen more in the future and it's a shame BT and ITV didn't come to a similar arrangement for the Champions League Final.

At the insistence of the ICC? The same ones who allowed a pay TV exclusive deal in the host nation? Sorry if I’ve missed the reports that said it was the ICC who put the pressure on but I don’t think that’s the case.


Given that for the Champions League Final BT managed to get almost 6m across their channels made FTA and claimed around the same number of unique stream viewers then I don’t think they’ll feel the need to do more than they’ve already done.


BT didn't make their channels FTA for the Champions League final (except on Virgin).

It was YouTube for the masses.

https://sport.bt.com/football/bt-sport-to-show-free-to-air-uefa-champions-league-final-S11364002870161