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BBC 6 o'clock news extended to cover VOC result (October 2003)

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Larry Scutta posted:
c@t posted:
They do know that these things sometimes don't run to schedule, don't they?

Witness (or not, as the case was) Nelson Mandela's release.

The BBC and ITV promised some tightly scheduled live coverage, but it took so long they got bored, cut to recorded programming and missed it.


er, really?
That's not how I remember it.... waiting for ages watching a crowded road full of people guessing: 'is that him?' until he finally arrived.

It was definately carried live on either BBC1 or ITV or both. Haven't you heard the stories about all the punters that complained that their programmes had been taken off to make way for it?


Sorry, Larry, you're wrong.

The BBC and ITV did not carry it live.

It was Sky's first coup.
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c@t posted:

Sorry, Larry, you're wrong.

The BBC and ITV did not carry it live.

It was Sky's first coup.


...seen by 2 people!

So BBC and ITV recorded it and then played it all out including the long waiting period after it actually happened?
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God Come on, Ann Widecombe is the answer!

Unfortunately I missed any News Channel coverage, however it was pleasing to see an extended Channel 4 News, ITV Evening News and BBC News, I watched BBC at 6 and Huw Edwards, and routinely watched ITV at 6:30. Well done to both of them.
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Altowers posted:
God Come on, Ann Widecombe is the answer!


No, surely Boris Johnson is! Very Happy
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Londoner
Katnap posted:
No, surely Boris Johnson is! Very Happy


Anyone see Adam Boulton's impression of Boris on the Sunrise paper review this morning Laughing
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mdtauk
Being a Labour supporter, I am quite content in letting the Tory's play change the leader every year.

But the only three Tories, I have any time for are Micheal Portillo, Kenneth Clarke, and Anne Widdecomb.

They went from Boring Grey Major, to Boring Bauled Heige, to Invisible Bauld Smith...
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martinDTanderson posted:
Being a Labour supporter, I am quite content in letting the Tory's play change the leader every year.

But the only three Tories, I have any time for are Micheal Portillo, Kenneth Clarke, and Anne Widdecomb.

They went from Boring Grey Major, to Boring Bauled Heige, to Invisible Bauld Smith...

Loving the bad grammar and spelling there Laughing

Anyway, I know this isn't really the place for discussion of this, but I think Michael Howard is the man for the job. His speech this afternoon was brilliant - he means business and is exactly what the party needs. As much as I like Iain Duncan Smith, he isn't a natural leader.
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Certainly Ann Widdecombe would be brilliant - so sharp and straightforward, the perfect antidote to Blair. But she will never stand.

I was hoping Theresa May might stand - it may be time for the tories to have another female leader. Although I'm not sure she'd get the necessary support.

Despite all this, I think Michael Howard will do well. He's more of a traditional tory than IDS, and he'll certainly give Tony Blair more of a run for his money.
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c@t posted:
Larry Scutta posted:
c@t posted:
They do know that these things sometimes don't run to schedule, don't they?

Witness (or not, as the case was) Nelson Mandela's release.

The BBC and ITV promised some tightly scheduled live coverage, but it took so long they got bored, cut to recorded programming and missed it.


er, really?
That's not how I remember it.... waiting for ages watching a crowded road full of people guessing: 'is that him?' until he finally arrived.

It was definately carried live on either BBC1 or ITV or both. Haven't you heard the stories about all the punters that complained that their programmes had been taken off to make way for it?


Sorry, Larry, you're wrong.

The BBC and ITV did not carry it live.

It was Sky's first coup.


True.

But unfortunately for Sky they did not win the battle of the rolling news channels - News 24 trounced the opposition, according to the Guardian.
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Yes, it's very interesting those Guardian figures- News 24 romped in ahead of Sky despite over 5 million watching the same simulcast on BBC One.

Also I think the Washington Capitol Gunman/woman showed the fundamental weakness with Sky News' new "opinionated programming". The news broke about 6:50 on News 24, Sky didn't report it til about 6:55. Then Littlejohn (presented by Platell) comes along at 7 and this major news story is entirely ignored for half an hour- not even their usual breaking news strap on the screen.

Meanwhile News 24 are live to their correspondent in Washington twice within 10 minutes and carry both news conferences held outside the Capitol itself, seemingly using their own feed. ITV News-lite Channel missed the first news conference entirely (they were leading on the McCartney baby story rather unsuprisingly), before cutting to MSNBC- but even they missed most of the second news conference that N24 covered entirely. ITV News-lite then of course cut straight to a break rather than analyse the news conference.

All in all a very good couple of days for News 24- showing that they can easily outdo Sky, ITV (and MSNBC apparently) on stories both sides of the Atlantic.
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tsunami__active posted:
Yes, it's very interesting those Guardian figures- News 24 romped in ahead of Sky despite over 5 million watching the same simulcast on BBC One.

Also I think the Washington Capitol Gunman/woman showed the fundamental weakness with Sky News' new "opinionated programming". The news broke about 6:50 on News 24, Sky didn't report it til about 6:55. Then Littlejohn (presented by Platell) comes along at 7 and this major news story is entirely ignored for half an hour- not even their usual breaking news strap on the screen.

Meanwhile News 24 are live to their correspondent in Washington twice within 10 minutes and carry both news conferences held outside the Capitol itself, seemingly using their own feed. ITV News-lite Channel missed the first news conference entirely (they were leading on the McCartney baby story rather unsuprisingly), before cutting to MSNBC- but even they missed most of the second news conference that N24 covered entirely. ITV News-lite then of course cut straight to a break rather than analyse the news conference.

All in all a very good couple of days for News 24- showing that they can easily outdo Sky, ITV (and MSNBC apparently) on stories both sides of the Atlantic.


I was flicking through all the news channels and Sky just seemed to ignore the story until 19:30 whereas BBC News 24 covered it and were going between their Washington correspondants.
Whereas ITV News Channel had been on-air with the ITV Evening News between 18:30 and 19:00 and so featured the story at 19:00 where Sasha Herrington (?) spoke briefly over a simulcast of MSNBC whom funnily enough kept simulcasting a feed of NBC!

I suppose once the ITV1 Evening News has finished I reckon a lot of the ITV news staff go home and the 19:00 ITV News Channel just replays a lot of the items from the ITV Evening News.

The easy option for ITV News Channel was to opt to an American networks coverage - what else could they really do? Robert Moore was busy covering the California fire story and it seems a bit frivoulous and over the top to have numerous reports throughout America to report and various stories for a British audience. Of course the BBC get away with this as they have BBC America and so can actually adequatly cover stories throughout America
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Well ITV really need a Correspondant permanently based in California, Robert Moore's been there twice recently.

Sounds extravagant for ITV, but they should get bureaux and correspondants in Delhi, Buenos Aires, Sydney, Tokyo, Mexico and Berlin.

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