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Disgusting display of anti-English bigotry (January 2007)

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JO
Johnny83
Rhysey posted:
Wicko posted:
GavBelfast posted:
Wicko posted:
Did anyone watch this appalling, tacky and abysmal show that BBC1 put out in the name of Entertainment? Wales and Northern Ireland spent the whole evening booing and jeering England and deprived Scotland a real chance of actually being able to play the game because of rascist anti-English tactics. Regardless of the fact that England did actually win, the real winners last night were England and Scotland jointly as they were the only countries to play correctly and fairly. The odd joke about the English is totally acceptable and funny and so on for the rest of the nations, but the booibng, jeering and anti English behaviour should not have been allowed on the BBC and the obviously biased host from Northern Ireland, the totally talentless Patrick Kielty, was cringeworthy. A dire programme and proof that we no longer can rely on our neibouring countries for help and support.


Piffle! Don't take things so seriously - the English brought it on themselves by boringly keeping themselves to themselves in banking points and nothing but reliance on their captain - he was a right clever-clogs while the team as a whole were Jade Goodys.

The Northern Ireland team were very magnanimous to the England team at the end - the Scots and the Welsh simply wanted their fellow Celts to win against The Big Cheese.

It was a crappy programme but a bit of fun - don't take it, yourself or yourselves too seriously, eh? 'Danger to the Union' indeed - as Catherine Tate's grany would say - what a load of old .....

Rolling Eyes


I wonder if your post would have said the same if the English were booing the Irish? The worst display of booing and taunting were from the Welsh. The Engliash have to spend their time, in their own country, being sensitive and political correct towards other nationalities. Why can't the same respect be given to the English?


Go Wales! Sorry, as diplomatic as I want to be, as someone who is Welsh born and bred, and has spent the last few years at university in Scotland I have no sympathy for the English. Indeed, I am half-English, but that doesn't stop me despairing at the way the Celtic nations are referred to at times or disregarded in favour of England. An example, a woman came into the store I work part time in the other week, with a deep Cockney accent, and she refused to accept a Scottish banknote because she wanted an English one, despite the fact we didn't have any Bank of England ones in the till, and ignoring the fact that BofS notes are legal tender throughout the UK. That example is indicative of the sort of English ingorance (and often United States ignorance) that the "minority" Celts have to deal with to greater or lesser extents all the time.

This isn't the place for a political discussion, but when such a strong a nation as the English can't take a bit of booing and jibing (the sort of behaviour the Welsh and Irish in particualr have endured for years) then they're not as mighty as they claim :p No offence to any English readers, as I say I'm half myself, but have to defend my Welsh identitiy. Razz


Although this is the case with Scottish banknotes the main reason they are largely refused is due to the fact most people are unfamiluar with them & wouldn't be able to tell a real from a fake note
MI
Mich Founding member
Rhysey posted:
An example, a woman came into the store I work part time in the other week, with a deep Cockney accent, and she refused to accept a Scottish banknote because she wanted an English one, despite the fact we didn't have any Bank of England ones in the till, and ignoring the fact that BofS notes are legal tender throughout the UK. That example is indicative of the sort of English ingorance (and often United States ignorance) that the "minority" Celts have to deal with to greater or lesser extents all the time.


Not quite true, although to refuse a Scottish note is churlish.

It is also worth pointing out that 'The English' could be deemed to lose out with respect to not having a BBC Two Nations service, or even the whole realm of issues that political devolution has caused. Although as you point out, that is going way off topic.

I thought the programme was poor; and seemed to confirm that BBC One wishes to move away from the "Test the Nation" brand - although quite why i'm not sure.

It was poor because it showed absolutely no imagination in format, with just two methods of awarding points (team and individual) doing little more than rotating for most of the programme.

I'd argue that it was largely good natured fun rather than any sort of real dislike of the opposing teams - and I can understand Wales' selections of N.I. towards the end; if the statistics read out by Kielty are correct, they didn't simply hand the bonus points to them.
LE
lewsnews
I am suprised the Cornish aren't up in arms about not being able to represent themselves on this programe Laughing
JO
Johnny83
lewsnews posted:
I am suprised the Cornish aren't up in arms about not being able to represent themselves on this programe Laughing


Laughing Isn't there a campaign at the moment where a few people are requesting independence
SA
saturdaymorning
I hope we don't get euros.It's like if an australian presented Channel Report!
JO
Johnny83
saturdaymorning posted:
I hope we don't get euros.It's like if an australian presented Channel Report!


Ah the old Euro debate, although I don't want it there quite a few pro's to have it, although best not to discuss that here
BF
TheBillFan
I think most of the booing at the beginning of the show was good natured. In the second part it started to get disrespectful to the other teams, especially when the other teams cheered when the English captain got a question wrong on a mispronunciation, just because he was the best captain of the lot.
BR
Brekkie
Although made by BBC Scotland, was it filmed in London?
LE
lewsnews
Football now and Andrew Murray who claimed that he'd be supporting Paraguay, a clear sign of un-unionised (is that a word?) support.. BUT.... it has been said that the question asked was "Will you be supporting Scotland in this World Cup?" to which we all know what Murray replied. All jokes but the way the media covered it appeared as though he was being a lame fool.. and because of that he lost a lot of support.

However the UK's relationship with Ireland is on the increase, they are now giving each other eight points in the Eurovision Song Contest!! woop.
JO
Johnny83
lewsnews posted:
Football now and Andrew Murray who claimed that he'd be supporting Paraguay, a clear sign of un-unionised (is that a word?) support.. BUT.... it has been said that the question asked was "Will you be supporting Scotland in this World Cup?" to which we all know what Murray replied. All jokes but the way the media covered it appeared as though he was being a lame fool.. and because of that he lost a lot of support.

However the UK's relationship with Ireland is on the increase, they are now giving each other eight points in the Eurovision Song Contest!! woop.


Ah... remember the good old days when we gave Ireland 12 points and they gave us nothing Laughing
BM
The Braid man
Wicko posted:
Did anyone watch this appalling, tacky and abysmal show that BBC1 put out in the name of Entertainment? Wales and Northern Ireland spent the whole evening booing and jeering England and deprived Scotland a real chance of actually being able to play the game because of rascist anti-English tactics. Regardless of the fact that England did actually win, the real winners last night were England and Scotland jointly as they were the only countries to play correctly and fairly. The odd joke about the English is totally acceptable and funny and so on for the rest of the nations, but the booibng, jeering and anti English behaviour should not have been allowed on the BBC and the obviously biased host from Northern Ireland, the totally talentless Patrick Kielty, was cringeworthy. A dire programme and proof that we no longer can rely on our neibouring countries for help and support.


Oh how I laughed at this one! I actually liked this programme and expected the usual queue of "slabbering" from the English. Imagine what we'd have to put up with if you actually lost (perish the thought!) Rolling Eyes Laughing
TE
tesandco Founding member
Rhysey posted:
An example, a woman came into the store I work part time in the other week, with a deep Cockney accent, and she refused to accept a Scottish banknote because she wanted an English one, despite the fact we didn't have any Bank of England ones in the till, and ignoring the fact that BofS notes are legal tender throughout the UK.


I'd refuse it also, and it's not because of any dislike of its nationality, but solely because they're a nightmare to spend again. Despite the fact we all know it's legal tender, a store can still refuse a sale on any ground, and whilst major supermarkets will take them (hence are generally the ones who give them back to you), just about any other place I've been in within England refuses to accept them.

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