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Coronavirus - Impact on live/recorded shows

Several talk programmes have cancelled studio audiences

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Jonwo


It reminds me of Married with Children which was also very formulaic, but it had an audience who enjoyed which was basically the same premise in every episode.

TV reviewers especially in the press are too busy pleasing their target audience who are more likely to enjoy Fleabag and Killing Eve as shows than working class tv formats which they use to sneer at. I'm sure there are a minority of ABC1 newspaper readers who like the type of humour Brendan O'Carroll writes, but it is what it is. Populist old school comedy.

I remember years ago a TV reviewer from the Telegraph was really snooty about having to review CSI saying after watching The Wire, it was like turning off the Brandenburg Concertos to listen to The Birdie Song which I thought was a bit unfair.
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I'm guessing the work from home message returning might see a reduction of people in the studio again for the ITV daytime shows (and others). Have to wonder about studio audiences too - they've axed plans for 1000 fans in outdoor stadia, and 100 people in an enclosed studio feels far more risky. Also wonder if the 10pm curfew on pubs will apply to any event where the public might be "socialising"?
Turns out nobody had 2020 vision.
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Jonwo
I'm guessing the work from home message returning might see a reduction of people in the studio again for the ITV daytime shows (and others). Have to wonder about studio audiences too - they've axed plans for 1000 fans in outdoor stadia, and 100 people in an enclosed studio feels far more risky. Also wonder if the 10pm curfew on pubs will apply to any event where the public might be "socialising"?

I doubt it’ll affect TV shows like it did last time as they have the necessary precautions in place.
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Jonwo posted:
I'm guessing the work from home message returning might see a reduction of people in the studio again for the ITV daytime shows (and others). Have to wonder about studio audiences too - they've axed plans for 1000 fans in outdoor stadia, and 100 people in an enclosed studio feels far more risky. Also wonder if the 10pm curfew on pubs will apply to any event where the public might be "socialising"?

I doubt it’ll affect TV shows like it did last time as they have the necessary precautions in place.


And to relate to this, Neighbours, Wentworth And the Australian Version of The Masked Singer (but with a 2 week pause thanks to an outbreak) were allowed to carry on filming despite the Lockdown in Victoria.
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Mouseboy33
I know its over the top. But the audience "solution" that the Ellen show came up with i think was kinda low key genius. I know its a logistical nightmare. But i think its a good solution. Not perfect but rather than broadcasting a from a silent studio from a programme that thrives on audience reaction this was good solution. (I dont watch Ellen, but I know her audiences are typically clappers, which is of course down to the stage managers who hype the audiences)

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Wendy Williams returned this week and she calls her audience her co-host and they show a virtual audience at the beginning and the use the staff to sit in the risers but you never see the virtual audience again during the rest of the show. Her show needs audience reactions to be even more funny. So its slightly lacking. I know it would be an expensive solution to add those separate screens like Ellen, but it would help if they erected a big monitor in the risers and put up the zoom audience so Wendy can see them react. Wendy's show this season just upgraded their huge media wall this season to a big seamless model. Not sure what they did with the old one (likely hired on lease or something). They should have kept it and broken it down and scatter the pieces through the audience risers, mixed with the real staffers making noise.

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Jonwo
I'm not sure if the Ellen solution could work here as it seems like a huge cost for a daily show.
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Jonwo posted:
I'm not sure if the Ellen solution could work here as it seems like a huge cost for a daily show.


There's a heck of a lot of conference hire companies sitting around doing nothing at the moment with warehouses full of the kit to do this. The running costs are minimal and could easily be managed remotely once you've hired the screens and a handful of computers to output content to them.
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Mouseboy33
The soluition they used for the Emmy's this past weekend was to have something like 130 camera kits sent out around the world to the nominees homes to show during the live show. They had to use the STAPLES Center arena because the theatre they usually use wasnt able to handle the simultaneous numbers of live feed apparently.
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Behind the scenes
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This picture seems to show them testing the equipment that was sent out and had to be set up in each celebrities homes around the world.
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From ET ONLINE
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The Emmys looked a little different this year. Prior to Sunday's semi-virtual ceremony, producers Reginald Hudlin and Ian Stewart admitted that "things are going to go wrong" during the live broadcast of the 72nd Primetime Emmys, but overall, the awards show was a huge success when you think about what all went into it.

Due to the coronavirus pandemic, the Emmys followed strict social distancing guidelines, which meant there was no live audience, no red carpet and no pre-show.

To pull off such a big event without all these things, the Emmys had 130 different feeds from various locations across the world, approximately 125 different locations in 20 cities and 10 countries. As for how viewers saw those acceptance speeches and celebrity appearances, the stars were sent professional camera units, which included a ring light, a laptop, a boom mic, a hi-tech camera and other equipment. Producers made sure they were "simple" enough for even the technically challenged to be able to put together and plug in from wherever they are -- whether it be at home, in their backyard, a hotel, a bar or elsewhere.

"We're doing this at the highest quality possible," Hudlin said ahead of the ceremony. "[The celebrities are] going to be our partners in this process."


From CNBC
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With so many feeds to monitor, the production team opted to utilize the Staples Center in Los Angeles as a base of operations for the show. There will be no audience at the event and no red carpet. No dress code was provided to nominees, so some may take the opportunity to dress-up while others could opt for a set of comfortable pajamas.

The telecast will include appearances from Jason Bateman, Sterling K. Brown, Laverne Cox, Count von Count from “Sesame Street,” Morgan Freeman, Lin-Manuel Miranda, RuPaul and Patrick Stewart, among others. It is unclear if they will be broadcasting from the Staples Center or if they will be joining the telecast from their homes.

Musician H.E.R. will perform live for the “In Memoriam” segment.

“It is sort of a logistic nightmare,” Stewart said jokingly, according to media reports. “It’s gonna be great. How could it possibly go wrong?”

The production team as well as Kimmel seem to be taking the possibility of disaster in stride, fully expecting that things will go wrong and they will need to adapt quickly.

The awards show is an experiment and the team is treating it as such. Producer Reginald Hudlin said that how awards are presented will change from category to category, but he didn’t elaborate on the team’s plans.

“Some of them may not work, but we said, let’s just experiment and have the audience a little more on the edge of their seats,” he said.
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The soluition they used for the Emmy's this past weekend was to have something like 150 camera kits sent out around the world to the nominees homes to show during the live show. They had to use the STAPLES Center arena because the theatre they usually use wasnt able to handle the simultaneous numbers of live feed apparently.

Well, that doesn't exactly make sense. Maybe they didn't have enough space to park enough OB / links trucks outside, but that's hardly the theatre's fault. Whereas an arena would have a large OB compound / undercroft for all the required trucks.
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Jonwo
Only Connect had a simple solution to film with social distancing which has been on other shows, perplex glass between the contestants. I would assume that'll be the solution for University Challenge when they film their next block of episodes if they haven't done so already.

Will be interesting to see what Mastermind comes up with, I suspect it'll just be the contestants not being close together which if they have no audience is pretty easy to do.
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Mouseboy33
The soluition they used for the Emmy's this past weekend was to have something like 150 camera kits sent out around the world to the nominees homes to show during the live show. They had to use the STAPLES Center arena because the theatre they usually use wasnt able to handle the simultaneous numbers of live feed apparently.

Well, that doesn't exactly make sense. Maybe they didn't have enough space to park enough OB / links trucks outside, but that's hardly the theatre's fault. Whereas an arena would have a large OB compound / undercroft for all the required trucks.

I cant say, but that was the words used in the pre-broadcast Emmy Red Carpet show. The Microsoft theater which is attached and part of the LA LIVE Complex to the Staples Centre couldnt be used and they opted to use the Staples Centre itself because it has the capacity to handle that many streams. I doubt it had anything to do with parking OB trucks. That facility is used for many awards shows such MTV Awards, Grammy's Etc. so its unlikely it came down to simply parking a truck.

From the New York Times
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Several presenters — including Jennifer Aniston, Tracee Ellis Ross and Jason Bateman — joined Kimmel on a stage built above the Staples Center basketball court. The show had been moved from its usual spot, the Microsoft Theater, to the home of the Los Angeles Lakers and Los Angeles Clippers, because the arena has the technological wherewithal to accommodate dozens of remote feeds.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/20/arts/television/emmy-awards.html

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Staples Centre and the Microsoft Theatre in the background.
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valley
The soluition they used for the Emmy's this past weekend was to have something like 150 camera kits sent out around the world to the nominees homes to show during the live show. They had to use the STAPLES Center arena because the theatre they usually use wasnt able to handle the simultaneous numbers of live feed apparently.

Well, that doesn't exactly make sense. Maybe they didn't have enough space to park enough OB / links trucks outside, but that's hardly the theatre's fault. Whereas an arena would have a large OB compound / undercroft for all the required trucks.

I cant say, but that was the words used in the pre-broadcast Emmy Red Carpet show. The Microsoft theater which is attached to the Staples Centre couldnt be used and they opted to use the Staples Centre itself because it has the capacity to handle that many streams. I doubt it had anything to do with parking OB trucks. That facility is used for many awards shows such MTV Awards, Grammy's Etc. so its unlikely it came down to simply parking a truck.

From the New York Times
Quote:
Several presenters — including Jennifer Aniston, Tracee Ellis Ross and Jason Bateman — joined Kimmel on a stage built above the Staples Center basketball court. The show had been moved from its usual spot, the Microsoft Theater, to the home of the Los Angeles Lakers and Los Angeles Clippers, because the arena has the technological wherewithal to accommodate dozens of remote feeds.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/20/arts/television/emmy-awards.html

Right, thanks. My point was more that they might need multiple trucks in order to handle the live feeds on top of the trucks doing the broadcast / red carpet etc. I'd be surprised if the Staples Center had more fibre lines than the Microsoft Theater, but I suppose it is is possible. Maybe they wanted to use fly-aways to handle the incoming feeds and simply the Staples Center had more space?

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