Coronation Street

Yes, I think its fair to say that some don't hold such a profound conviction in their beliefs as they would have us believe - otherwise they wouldn't be so concerned about others stating their opinion.

No, I have never assumed anyone is (or should be) rigid in a point of view, or closed to debate; that's not what I said or inferred.

However, I don't normally deal with constructed fictional characters in day-to-day life. I would expect them to exhibit at least some indication of a change in their views beforehand, otherwise it appears 'rather strange' to viewers.


As stated, I have no problem with his point of view, simply that it was a surprising scene. I may be a regular Corrie viewer, but I don't remember religion being an important aspect of this character before.

He may well have mentioned such views before, which I didn't exclude in my post, but I am not a walking Corrie-encyclopaedia and don't ever intend to be one!

Implied. You "imply", I "infer".



No, Stuart, normally you watch them.



Patronising much?

Ken's character is non-religious - as you correctly surmised. Therefore you could infer that he either has zero interest in it, or that he has well formed belief that organised religion is at best hokum, and at worst damaging to society.

It seems they chose the latter.

Quite unsurprising, I found it.

Aside from your rather unnecessary grammatical criticism (which obviously didn't in any way detract from your understanding) and other comments which were essentially irrelevant to the post I made:


I didn't surmise anything of the sort - you have assumed that. There is no evidence that the character is non-religious.


Another assumption, you're full of them today, Gavin!

Christianity is not the only religion: expressing a view against it doesn't make someone anti-religious any more than supporting any other belief, organised or otherwise.


Indeed, you are entitled to that view; it's called an opinion!

Please allow me the same freedom!

accorinding to our leaky friends at DS Sophie is going to become a

that will give the 23 bored Christians something to complain about as it will insinuate that Christianity makes you

I'm a Christian but I couldn't care less if people believe or don't it's their lives

as for Micky North, hope he gets better soon, no need for that brain dead behaviour because you don't like the character an actor portrays.

No one is treading on your freedom, Stuart. There's no need to play victim.

Ken IS non-religious, but if it wasn't clear to you before it should be now. I'm a some-time viewer, and his views were clear to me.

My "assumptions" on his view were based on his words, and he left little to be misconstrued.

So someone is full of something here, but its not me and its not "assumptions", thank you very much.

It's funny that whenever someone questions your arrogance you accuse them of "playing victim". Well, people can only play the victim if someone is playing the bully.

Wrong again.

Who'd have believed it?

I certainly wasn't playing the victim, but you seem to find it necessary to demean my post by saying so. If that makes you feel better about yourself, then so be it.

My original post about the scene in Coronation Street was very clear.

As a viewer I don't have, nor am I required to have, an indepth knowledge of every aspect of a fictional character's personality and beliefs. It's therefore not unusual for me to express surprise when a character behaves in a way I didn't anticipate. That's why I watch soaps: if I knew how every character was going to act in every situation then there would be little point in watching.

I'm not sure why you felt the need to question my reaction, ridicule it by stating that you were already aware of the character's 'non-religious beliefs', or then claim that I had 'surmised' something which I obviously hadn't. Clearly it was an aspect I was either never aware of or had decided to ignore as unimportant up to that time.

Claiming the right to have an opinion is not 'playing the victim' by any normal understanding of the concept. However, attempting to undermine or ridicule people for simply having an opinion different to your own is arrogant by every normal definition.

I trust that is the end of the matter.

can you guys argue by PM and let the rest of us have our corry forum back



just spotted another child care laps on corry (after the peacocks went out and left Freddie behind)

steve and Beccky are on holiday

Liz is in Spain

so Who's looking after Amy

(it's not the Barlows)

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/article2381015.ece

oh wow sun exclusive, that's going to happen then
I'm still waiting for Clare to drive a train off the viaduct )

half these moles leak stories at the planning stages when they are only ideas, like the one above